Posted on 01/25/2020 3:58:02 PM PST by janetjanet998
A 3rd case in the US,
in Orange County, Ca.
Yep. Moderna. Clinical trials by June.
Your point about about the medical care delivery system possibly locking up is perhaps THE biggest unsung risk in all this. There are scores of interdependencies nowadays. This brings to mind the disruption after the 2010 Eyjafjallajökull eruption. America wasn't too dependent on Europe so it was as impactful here vs other areas. But it's a good proxy to be studied -I'm interested in Mom MD's views.
Again, more to come and thank you for the debate...we are probably 80% in agreement which in the early stages of a possible scare is great.
And fyi, imo, the planned speed for this vaccine is the single most ominous announcement.
Cannot be reiterated enough:
How is the new virus different from SARS?
Ma Xiaowei said that the current situation of the epidemic is grim and complicated, and it is in a critical period of prevention and control. Judging from the scope of transmission, the outbreak is currently outbreaking in Wuhan, with multiple points spreading nationwide. From the characteristics of transmission, the patient’s early body temperature is not high or normal, and there are many mild cases. The infectivity of the virus has increased, and walking infection sources have greatly increased the difficulty of prevention and control.
From the observations, the virus incubation period is about 10 days, the shortest incubation period is one day, and the longest incubation period is 14 days. The incubation period is contagious, which is very different from SARS.
The development of the epidemic is accelerating, and from now on, it will continue for some time. The increase in some cases is also likely to occur in the coming period.
http://finance.eastmoney.com/a/202001261368008519.html
Lot of good information in the article
Currently we are at or near the height of flu season in the US. On any given day most hospitals are running at capacity. Itwont take much to swamp the system. But that is true any year
The truth also is that most people in the hospital could be treated at home with medication and family members to care for them. If this hits we may see a strict triage system defining just how ill you have to be to be hospitalized and who can be cared for at home
"When he arrived (from #Wuhan), he did not have any symptoms. It didn't take long before several colleagues he had contacted were infected. He still did not have the disease himself. He did not get the disease after another two days. #coronavirus #2019nCoV https://t.co/3eLYA6sNQm— nCoV2019 (@V2019N) January 26, 2020
Very much a rumor, I understand this is out of Taiwan. People are saying maybe it’s a “trial balloon” release of real numbers. Take it for what it’s worth:
15702 Infected
8350 Suspected
49 Cured
2577 Dead
Tip for reading Chinese websites.
The new Edge browser will translate some Chinese websites after loading the page.
For websites that do not translate you can install One Click Translate Extension. After installations just right click the text and click translate. Note: this not work on images it has to be regular text.
Hopefully this into will help us find and verify data from China.
Breaking: Federal health officials say the Toronto man who has the coronavirus was symptomatic on the airplane last week when he was returning to Canada. Efforts are now underway to reach passengers who may have been in contact with him.— Carly Weeks (@carlyweeks) January 26, 2020
Thanks
Oops. That could be scary.
15702 Infected
8350 Suspected
49 Cured
2577 Dead
If the numbers are true. The Dead and Infected are lower then what I was thinking it could be. The Dead verses Cured concerns me.
I wonder where they got the numbers from.
Coronavirus - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sTsyQuojz-E
What appear to be officials - “From our observation, the disease can be spread during the incubation period. The incubation period lasts for ten days. The shortest is one day, the longest is 14 days. This is very different from SARS... Our knowledge of the new coronavirus the source hasn’t been found. We are not clear of the mechanism of transmission and if the virus will be mutated.”
So far, and assuming published data is accurate (!), the contravirus has relatively high CFR of 3% (in line with smallpox but way lower than influenza's 0.1%) but the PC is very low for the tens of millions of quarantined folks. Thus, it's like AIDS.
Now, it is early days and the Chinese govt is as trustworthy as the Clintons. Further, with SARS people assumed a super high PC and CFR. It never came.
More to come.
“What if they quarantine our state?”
Do you not know how many roads there are out of CA?
Aren’t their homes rather small? Can’t be much room for prep foods.
I made a quick run into town to grab pet food. Found canned chili on sale 2 for 1 so got the 8 cans they had. Needed to get various bottles of Asian condiments and they only had two soy sauce, two sesame oil, two fish sauce and two sriracha sauces. The end. Nothing more. Weird but am thankful for that since it’s Venezu-Texas shopping here (thanks, HEB, not).
Right...always happens here in this area too. The weather stations are always hyping every storm. This week end here was suppose to be one of ice and snow....well hardly any ice and snow barely touching the ground.
What ever happened to it’s just ‘winter’ weather?...
They burned it down.
There’s always room for Lunar Holiday Food....even the poorest have special items as family members return. We’re talking parents who work in the cities who see their kids, back in rual country, once a year at this time. So there will be food for a time.
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