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Posted on 01/24/2020 2:28:22 PM PST by janetjanet998

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To: hardspunned

if you don’t have a facemask, use a bra or a diaper or a regular cloth.

Here in the Philippines, the ash was terrible, so they quickly ran out of heavy facemasks so had to improvise.

https://www.philstar.com/lifestyle/health-and-family/2020/01/14/1984778/list-doh-approved-face-mask-alternatives


741 posted on 01/25/2020 12:12:11 PM PST by LadyDoc (liberals only love politically correct poor people)
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To: grey_whiskers

Just now China appears to have shut down most or all of its international Internet access. They can’t tolerate any further evidence like this leaking out to Twitter.


742 posted on 01/25/2020 12:16:04 PM PST by Mr. Jeeves ([CTRL]-[GALT]-[DELETE])
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To: DEPcom

At least more honest reporting. The Chinese government has always downplayed the severity of viruses coming out of their region. As for better healthcare, In a pandemic, the west will fare better in the early stages. But if the facilities are overwhelmed (supplies/beds/personnel run out) I guess people will have to do they best they can on their own. If we are to believe some of the nurse reports trickling out of Wuhan, that is what is happening there now.


743 posted on 01/25/2020 12:16:33 PM PST by LilFarmer
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To: DEPcom

The Spanish Flu traveled the sea lanes, this one is jet age.


744 posted on 01/25/2020 12:20:00 PM PST by hardspunned
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To: Black Agnes
I’m currently humoring its insults.

I’d love to know how many program posters there are on FR and from whence their IP’s originate...


You have greater patience than I. I think this is a case of FR ozone from heaven.
745 posted on 01/25/2020 12:20:15 PM PST by PA Engineer (Liberate America from the Occupation Media.)
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To: boxlunch

“Who posted that? I did not see a post like that, at least on this thread”

I didn’t name any names because I didn’t want to embarrass anybody.

Read for yourself.

https://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/3810897/posts?page=9#9


746 posted on 01/25/2020 12:22:35 PM PST by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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To: grey_whiskers

It’s a serious issue. Especially when it’s a newly observed pathogen. It should be closely monitored.

It’s not though without precedent as its a variant of SARS and MERS so it’s known that those deadly viruses did not cause any major epidemic or catastrophic death tolls.

One reason, interestingly, that this one, called WARS by some, is considered potentially worse in terms of spread is it’s not as severe or deadly as SARS.


747 posted on 01/25/2020 12:30:13 PM PST by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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To: ifinnegan

“WARS” == “wild-assed” respiratory syndrome, named after the wide range of predictions for virulence? ;-)


748 posted on 01/25/2020 12:35:15 PM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change with out notice.)
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To: DEPcom

“100 Million infected by Feb, that is an extreme prediction. I wonder how fast the Spanish flu spread in 2018.”

I don’t know how fast it spread.

It’s not 1918 and Corona viruses aren’t influenza, so the dynamic is different.


749 posted on 01/25/2020 12:35:35 PM PST by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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To: Mr. Jeeves
Just now China appears to have shut down most or all of its international Internet access. They can’t tolerate any further evidence like this leaking out to Twitter.

DAFUQ.

Can you name any sites which would allow me to test that?

I don't doubt you, but I want to get a feel or gauge for the scope. The more crackdown on Twatter, Faecesbook, "mom and pop" and individual accounts, and the more "stirring patriotic music" on the official sites that ARE still allowed, the worse it is.

Might be time to go to Home Depot and buy out their supply of masks, and load up on vegetables. I have enough vitamins and Whey protein powder and olive oil to fend off starvation...

750 posted on 01/25/2020 12:37:57 PM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change with out notice.)
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To: ifinnegan

It’s not 1918 and Corona viruses aren’t influenza, so the dynamic is different.

*******

in 1918, there wasn’t single day pan-global transportation of large numbers of people on a regular basis.

Spread that took months or years back then can happen in a single day now.


751 posted on 01/25/2020 12:38:36 PM PST by Grimmy (equivocation is but the first step along the road to capitulation)
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To: justa-hairyape

It’s kind of interesting that the country that makes a huge portion of meds/med supplies for the rest of the world is the first country to basically shut down the supply chain.

No interprovince passenger travel is allowed right now either.


752 posted on 01/25/2020 12:38:52 PM PST by Black Agnes
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To: ifinnegan

It’s called extrapolation.

Remember algebra 1?

Or earlier?

The poster CLEARLY qualified that statement with ‘at that rate...’.

Did you miss those three words?


753 posted on 01/25/2020 12:40:21 PM PST by Black Agnes
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To: Mr. Jeeves

The fact of the matter - this is absolute worse case scenario for spread. The tight controls on communication in this totalitarian regime allowed the quickly spreading virus to gain a foot hold. If a government has any duty at all, it is to give honest information to its citizens so that they can properly prepare. Preventing communication is preventing honesty.


754 posted on 01/25/2020 12:49:04 PM PST by justa-hairyape (The user name is sarcastic. Although at times it may not appear that way.)
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To: DEPcom

“100 Million infected by Feb, that is an extreme prediction. I wonder how fast the Spanish flu spread in 2018.”

Predicted by people who are terrible at math and are even worse with science.


755 posted on 01/25/2020 12:50:46 PM PST by CodeToad (Arm Up! They Have!)
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To: ifinnegan
These are less than a day old.

https://twitter.com/DrEricDing/status/1220968356314042369

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Small note: While there were reports of SARS having 0.49 after containment started, a WHO cited experts who said SARS had initial R0 of 2.9 then 2.0-3.5, which which fell to 0.4 after quarantine. But SARS is more symptomatic than this Wuhan virus. To be updated.

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Dr. Eric Feigl-Ding

https://twitter.com/DrEricDing/status/1220950012059881474

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14/ Let’s pretend the 3.8 estimate is too high (there’s unpublished estimates of 2.5). even if this virus’s R0=2.5, that’s still 2x higher than seasonal flu’s 1.28 (ref above), and higher than 1918 Spanish Flu pandemic of 1.80 that killed millions. So 2.8 is still super bad folks

756 posted on 01/25/2020 12:50:46 PM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change with out notice.)
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To: grey_whiskers
I can still see Chinese sites - but e-mails to Chinese recipients are suddenly not going through and we don't know what, if any, international sites they are being allowed to see. The Great Firewall did not block most international sites before - maybe it does, now.

I don't know if it is a complete lockdown or just an attempt to screen out the transmission of video content from inside the quarantine zone to Western sites. I'm sure we will hear more in a few hours.

757 posted on 01/25/2020 12:52:50 PM PST by Mr. Jeeves ([CTRL]-[GALT]-[DELETE])
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To: janetjanet998

thank you


758 posted on 01/25/2020 12:53:07 PM PST by Chickensoup (Voter ID for 2020!! Leftists totalitarian fascists appear to be planning to eradicate conservatives)
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To: CodeToad; DEPcom; Black Agnes
See my post #756 this thread for more on transmission rates. The source is an MD or PhD who spent 15 years teaching at Harvard's School of Public Health, so not necessarily a wild-eyed quack, even if maybe a Swamp member...
759 posted on 01/25/2020 12:53:15 PM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change with out notice.)
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To: Black Agnes

The Chicoms had the world by the gonads. Everything was theirs for the taking. But the deal they made with the devil, has unpredictable consequences. They always do.


760 posted on 01/25/2020 12:54:22 PM PST by justa-hairyape (The user name is sarcastic. Although at times it may not appear that way.)
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