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China's coronavirus has 'the same death rate as the Spanish flu pandemic that killed 50m people'
Yahoo Style UK ^ | January 22, 2020 | Alexandra Thompson

Posted on 01/22/2020 9:11:01 AM PST by BenLurkin

Chinese officials have confirmed 440 cases of the new coronavirus strain - 2019-nCoV - so far, with 17 deaths. Based on existing data, it is said to have a 2% death rate.

This means that for every 50 people who catch the infection, one will statistically die.

To put this into context, around one in every 1,000 who develop flu die, giving it a death rate of 0.1%. “This [2019-nCoV’s death rate] could be 2%, similar to Spanish flu,” Professor Neil Ferguson, from Imperial College London, said.

Professor Peter Horby, from the University of Oxford, pointed out fatality estimations are based on “clinical data around hospital cases”.

Of those in hospital, “15%-to-20% are severe cases”, defined as needing ventilation.

Coronaviruses as a class are common, causing everything from the common cold to epidemics like severe acute respiratory syndrome (Sars).

2019-nCoV is thought to have originated in animals before “jumping” over to humans.

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TOPICS: Health/Medicine
KEYWORDS: coronavirus; spanishflu
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1 posted on 01/22/2020 9:11:01 AM PST by BenLurkin
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To: null and void

Him: "Don't want to be 'statistically dead.'"
Her: "Ping Null and Void."
2 posted on 01/22/2020 9:12:47 AM PST by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire. Or both.)
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To: BenLurkin

Maybe China decided it was time to cull the herd.


3 posted on 01/22/2020 9:18:34 AM PST by jester221 (Stupid pills, with all due respect, should have an obama-proof lid)
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They should have started in those locales which are net exporters of poor people.


4 posted on 01/22/2020 9:21:15 AM PST by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire. Or both.)
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To: BenLurkin

Deliberately misleading.

The .1 mortality for flu is based on all cases not just hospitalizations as the corona is reported.

Flu mortality of only hospital cases is greater than 10 percent for the 2017/18 season.


5 posted on 01/22/2020 9:21:52 AM PST by fruser1
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Ah. Interesting!


6 posted on 01/22/2020 9:23:28 AM PST by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire. Or both.)
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To: BenLurkin

PANIC NOW!!!


7 posted on 01/22/2020 9:23:44 AM PST by Obadiah (Kill the deep state or lose the Republic.)
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Too late.

You should have panicked yesterday.


8 posted on 01/22/2020 9:24:26 AM PST by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire. Or both.)
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To: BenLurkin

Hopefully China will suffer some karma and wipe out their population. Nasty people, government and culture.

Hopefully take out the globalist traitors from the US over there as well who sold out our countries workers.

I don’t care.


9 posted on 01/22/2020 9:24:44 AM PST by setter
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I usually read about these things after they are over.

It’s worked very well for me. Life is good.

Let me know how it all works out. :)


10 posted on 01/22/2020 9:27:57 AM PST by cuban leaf (The political war playing out in every country now: Globalists vs Nationalists)
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To: BenLurkin

Uh no. The Spanish flu killed 20% of those infected. However, that number is suspect due to poor record keeping in many parts of the world. 20% would mean that 10 out of fifty die. If the Chi-bug was doing that there would already be mass panic by .gov(s).


11 posted on 01/22/2020 9:30:40 AM PST by mad_as_he$$
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To: BenLurkin

I would say that makes it much worse. They didn’t have anywhere near the skills back then to keep sick people alive that they do now.


12 posted on 01/22/2020 9:31:36 AM PST by ImJustAnotherOkie (All I know is The I read in the papers.)
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To: mad_as_he$$

If you watched Downton Abbey you would know it was 20%. I know it was true because it was on TV and PBS.


13 posted on 01/22/2020 9:32:49 AM PST by ImJustAnotherOkie (All I know is The I read in the papers.)
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To: mad_as_he$$

The media never mentions that when the Spanish flu was killing people, we had no antibiotics for any secondary infections involving bacteria, we had very little access to IV technology for hydration (that took off in the 1950s), and aspirin was considered new, cutting edge treatment for fever.

The high death rate for Spanish Flu says a lot about the medical situation in 1918. For equivalent death rates today, you’d need a disease significantly worse.


14 posted on 01/22/2020 9:42:21 AM PST by ClearCase_guy (If White Privilege is real, why did Elizabeth Warren lie about being an Indian?)
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Good point. But the SF developed very fast in younger people. One would need to be treated in short order to get ahead of it today.


15 posted on 01/22/2020 9:47:24 AM PST by mad_as_he$$
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To: ImJustAnotherOkie

lol... I remember that from DA. There was a show on the SF on maybe the History Channel just a few weeks ago. Very interesting. Whole towns were basically wiped out in the plain states in the US. Mass graves etc.


16 posted on 01/22/2020 9:49:52 AM PST by mad_as_he$$
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To: ImJustAnotherOkie

“They didn’t have anywhere near the skills back then to keep sick people alive that they do now.”


Skills are great to have...but if you lack the resources to take advantage of those skills, they are of limited value. Run out of anti-viral medications and immune boosters, and people will die in large numbers, the skill of their doctors and nurses notwithstanding. Our medical system is not very different from our retail system - it is a just-in-time system that is designed to be efficient, with effectiveness only possible in “normal” environments (which is probably 95% of the time). It is that other 5% of the time that is worrisome.


17 posted on 01/22/2020 10:06:13 AM PST by Ancesthntr ("The right to buy weapons is the right to be free." A. E. van Vogt, The Weapons Shops of Isher)
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To: mad_as_he$$
Whole towns were basically wiped out in the plain states in the US. Mass graves etc.

When I first started working I worked with an older gentleman, who told me his first job in the Spanish Flu epidemic was making boxes (Coffins),for the victims of the Flu.
He told me some areas were hit very hard with these deaths. Unbelievable by today's standards of Hospitals, and medical attention. -Tom

18 posted on 01/22/2020 10:32:31 AM PST by Capt. Tom
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To: BenLurkin
This means that for every 50 people who catch the infection, one will statistically die.

I will admit I'd never heard of statistically dying before, but it sounds awful. "Drill, yer number's up!" What am I going to do without it?

No, this isn't the "Spanish" flu, for which nomenclature every Spaniard should be allowed to thrash a newspaperman somewhere. "Fort Riley Flu" doesn't have quite the sizzle to it but is marginally more accurate, although of late even that appears not to have been Ground Zero. The really interesting question with that one isn't how it started, it's why it stopped. That may give us a clue as to just how imperiled humanity is to epidemic disease. No zombie apocalypse, sorry - I've had my hopes dashed by science.

19 posted on 01/22/2020 10:44:05 AM PST by Billthedrill
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To: BenLurkin

I opened the window and in flew Enza...


20 posted on 01/22/2020 2:32:16 PM PST by Bobalu (The Golden Globes should just be 3 hours of Gervais roasting everyone)
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