Posted on 01/06/2020 12:14:40 AM PST by sushiman
I have IE 11 in both my PCs and am finding it increasingly difficult to use some websites . Even Facebook says that my browser will soon not be usable on that site . I don't want to install Windows 10 , so , to those who are still using Windows 7 , which browser do you recommend ? Any other advice ? Thanks in advance !
I think the problem is the limited options available that will support the ARM processor, most are command line. Did some homework and Ubuntu has a GUI distro made just for the Raspberry Pi ARM processor if you want to try it? Here are the instructions using Windows tools. This Ubuntu 16.04 is the same thing as the Mint 18.3 I am running now and a full GUI OS. Wish I had my Pi in so that I could give it a test run and work the kinks out if there are any for you. :)
https://linuxhint.com/install-ubuntu-on-raspberry-pi/
Dug deeper and it looks like the Ubuntu MATE doesn’t support the Pi 4 yet. But it does support up to 3+.
Something over ten year ago, Ubuntu was the Linux that pushed the whole milieu up into mainstream attention, and was (probably thanks to the installer) the number one installation among individual users. It was also very good looking, and had a pretty good user interface (a little more like the original Windows, which was a skin over DOS). Now it seems to have a bit of a bad rep, but that could be because the people who rate and review have a different flavor they prefer. Ernest-at-the-Beach used to prefer Mint as well, if memory serves (he seems to have vanished from FR); I believe ShadowAce is FR's Linux maven, could be wrong; I think martin_fierro first gave me some hardware tips on really small laptops (netbooks).
About nine months. I’ve been something of a power user of Word since version 6. I use MSOffice 365 at work, still have MSOffice 2007 at home. About twice a year I install a version of Linux to check it out. I’ve tried at least 8 versions of Linux in the past few years, most recently cinnamon Mint 18.3. I’ve also used several versions of Open Office/Libre Office. Last time was when I bought the new Dell in April last year. Used it until I found the backup with my installation files for Office 2007.
It works, it’s different enough to be frustrating, sometimes. There are plenty of other options, depending on what you want to do. They’re going to be different, too. If all you do is email and internet, anything will work. You can get Firefox or it’s variants for practically any more-or-less modern environment except maybe for OS/2.
I keep looking at the Z80 Membership Card, http://www.sunrise-ev.com/z80.htm
It’s a z80cpu retrocomputer with CP/M. Might be hard to find a good browser for it. I put myself online the first time on an H89 with CP/M and a turbo-pascal terminal program back when “online” meant AOL, GENie, or BBS systems.
“My problem with Linux was hardware drivers. If they existed they were less than intuitive to install.
On top of that, software installations were definitely hit or miss.
If it is now as easy as Windows or IOS, maybe I’ll take another look.”
As of April last year, anyway, when last I checked, linux hardware drivers were still less-than-intuitive, hard to find, and didn’t work as well as the Win10 drivers. Couldn’t tell you about today, as I’ve not had a lot of time to play. I’m still dealing with the harddrive crash that took out my previous machine, and most of my decade’s worth of stored data on metalworking. Fortunately, a lot of that stuff is available at archive.org. Unfortunately, it’s not all available there. Yahoo taking down all of their Groups user-created content didn’t help any, either.
Oh absolutely, ShadowAce and Dayglored are the Gurus who share the most knowledge around here from what I see. Even though it is “based” on Ubuntu and Debian, I like the Mint because they have done a very good job of paying attention to extra detail, stability, ease of use, and fantastic all in one package bundling. They have their GUI down to a science and the average user would almost never need to use the command line if ever, only if doing something on the complicated side with it. The only times I really “needed to” was twice, once setting up my VPN server, and once to configure a virtual machine environment. And the virtual server I could probably have done all GUI, but I wanted to learn how to do it with the command line by choice so that I could read the source behind it and understand how it works better.
Looks like you are up to speed then. :) And you are right, any new program is still a new program. No two are exactly alike and cannot be expected to be. Even a new version of the same program is going to have a learning curve.
“I put myself online the first time on an H89 with CP/M and a turbo-pascal terminal program back when “online” meant AOL, GENie, or BBS systems.”
Man was I happy when Netscape came around... lol
If I weren't so blamed lazy I'd check these three monitors to see which one could be pressed into service as a dual system monitor. Then, when I need to view a vid, or look at a potential article for one of the ping lists, I can actually do that without changing chairs.
In the winter especially, about the only physical activity I get when I'm at home is going up and down the stairs before and after bedtime, and switching CPUs.
Eventually my dessicated remains will be found, skeletal digits still on the keyboard and mouse, when my family visits...
One thing I can tell you for sure... Your dedication would be unachievable by most friend. :)
Good thing you don’t have all those monitors in different rooms... :)
I've got three here -- one of which may be the future home for the Pi -- one in the family room (TV, but with loads of ports) where the Pi is now, a smallish flat screen (my first one) in the living room, again, loads of ports, the bigger big screen, new, bedroom (has a chip computer, W10, btw); also in the bedroom is the 32" monitor I've had for years, that's got another (much younger) old Mac attached, along with the laptop (had to get a magic box to make that work right). Oh, and my old CRT is in the garage, has a CGA port on it, heh...
“Oh, and my old CRT is in the garage, has a CGA port on it, heh...”
Lol, I have a LOT of old equipment around here. Old word processors, A couple Wyse terminals, A Tandy 1000, A color computer 3. 286s 386s 486s, Lots of displays, Single sided floopy drives, Etc. A museum from what I see. lol
Just made a connection the other day with an outlet that supplies “property masters” in the film industry. They are very interested in some of this retro stuff. If they don’t buy it I am going to throw it in the flail crusher and extract the metals. The older stuff was coated VERY thick and some even had solid Gold wire and connector contacts... :)
“Man was I happy when Netscape came around... lol”
Tell you how long ago it was, I had to look up the name for my favorite first browser. Mosaic. Created by the same guy who created Netscape, but a few years earlier. Yep. Back in the good old days, when I still had two brain cells to rub together! LOLOLOLOL!
That makes sense -- the props departments like to have stuff around from different periods. Be sure to skin 'em a little, freakin' showbiz. :^)
BTW, the CGA is an odd sort of rectangular connector apparently also used on the Amiga. Go figure. Just how old is the danged TV? I got it in the mid- to late-80s at Highland Appliance. It was a display sample, and cost me a mere, I think, $300. Whopping 20" screen.
Looks like the winner is the Samsung SyncMaster 2253LW -- it's hooked to the Mac via VGA, and the DVI is available, which is perfect. And I've got speakers that will give the sound, which will be nice for music streaming when I'm deep into the wild world of text.
Glad you got 18.3 working- can’t understand hwy 19.3 didn’t work- but 18.3 is good too- keep it up to date and you should be fine- hopefully they work the bugs out of the 19.3 so you can upgrade at some point-
Actually what i might do is create a virtual machine, and keep trying to install and run 19.3 on it- just to keep up on whether they fix the problems or not- it won’t hurt anythign to try as you just delete the os in the virtual machine if it doesn’t work out-
I've got 18.3 running on one old laptop, and 19.3 running on my daily beater.
They're both performing well, although 19.3 does occasionally freeze up every few days. That's a mystery, and I'm not the only one who's experienced it.
[[19.3 does occasionally freeze up every few days. That’s a mystery,]]
Yeah, i don’t understand why that is- mine works fine- but i did upgrade from 18.3 to 19.3 instead of a clean install- and it kept sum of 18.3’s features for some reason, like the icons and a few other things- so maybe that had something to do with it why it works fine for me, ii don’t know- although i did do a clean install of 19.3 but didn’t like the new icons and a couple of other minor things, so i formatted the partition, then installed 18.3, then upgraded and just out of curiosity, and noticed it kept some of the tings i liked in 18.3- so I’ve been using 19.3 fine for many months now with no issues at all- Fortunately-
I understand an umber of folks haven’t been so lucky- unfortunately- it’s a great operating system- and like you said, it’s a lot like windows which made it really easy to switch for me- but i did run into a few issues in hte beginning where i had to really search for solutions, and believe me, linux sites are full of geeks that talk another language lol, so it wasn’t easy-
But now, the new versions just work without having to really fiddle with stuff except a few minor things- like changing clock to a format that i like- (Day name, month, day number, time)- but that was really easy once i got through the geek wordage-
I use Flashpeak Slimjet. It’s a Chromium based browser but for me it’s the best one I’ve ever used. Check it out.
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