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Of Course Men Aren’t Interested in Little Women
Naitonal Review ^ | January 2, 2020 | Kyle Smith

Posted on 01/02/2020 12:05:24 PM PST by C19fan

It’s a peculiar feature of our culture that men who behave in predictably masculine ways find themselves chastised and scolded for not being more feminine. This brings me to Little Women, which is not exactly packing in male ticket buyers. Why would it? No one expected women to turn up for Rambo: Last Blood, and no one seemed particularly interested in the male-female breakdown of the ticket sales for that one.

Yet op-ed writers keep pitching versions of the same strange thesis, which is that we should be cross with men for not buying tickets to Little Women. “Dear men who are afraid to see Little Women: you can do this,” says an op-ed in the Washington Post. I think the writer is here confusing the concept of fear with lack of interest or boredom. (I blanch at the prospect of going through my Aetna paperwork, but my guiding emotion is not fear.) “For the love of Marmee,” writes Monica Hesse of the WaPo, “won’t someone please organize a Meetup so these men can watch Saoirse Ronan and Emma Watson go to the ball and lose their gloves?” I am sorry to inform Ms. Hesse that the United States is a signatory to the Geneva Convention and hence no American man can be forced to submit to this variant of the Ludovico Technique from A Clockwork Orange.

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TOPICS: Books/Literature; TV/Movies
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To: Chickensoup

Same here. Who knows, I might have enjoyed Cooper when I was a child, but unfortunately I got hold of Twain’s essay first.


181 posted on 01/02/2020 5:33:29 PM PST by HartleyMBaldwin
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To: nopardons

If you like, I can provide you with my list of ultra-boring “classics”.


182 posted on 01/02/2020 5:33:49 PM PST by GingisK
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To: Chickensoup

I have to admit that I never read Little Women, though we had a copy around and my sisters loved it. I did like Little Men and Jo’s Boys, though.


183 posted on 01/02/2020 5:36:45 PM PST by HartleyMBaldwin
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To: Chickensoup

Did you see the movie?

We are discussing the movie I am pointing out how the movie betrays the book


184 posted on 01/02/2020 5:39:56 PM PST by stanne
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To: xp38
I've always preferred THE ODYSSEY ( also full of "blood & guts" ) and also really like Vigil's AENEID, but yes, the ILLIAD is a great work as well.

Colleges and universities ( and yes, all schools for that matter ) no longer actually educate the young, for the most part.

And since you went waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay back, moving a bit forward, THE SONG OF ROLAND, is also another good read.

185 posted on 01/02/2020 5:42:39 PM PST by nopardons
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To: HartleyMBaldwin
Oh aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaacccccccccccccccccck; automatic writing or worse! James Fenimore Cooper! Good grief, what a crazy thing and I know much better, having read all of the books by both authors as well as seeing movie versions of films made from the books AND having been to Hawthorne's HOUSE OF SEVEN GABLES house!

I wrote that while I was on the phone; obviously I should have proofread it before I hit the post button.

186 posted on 01/02/2020 5:51:56 PM PST by nopardons
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To: nopardons

Yeah, I wish FR had a way to edit after posting. Still, it’s fun in a disturbing sort of way to imagine what the Leatherstocking Tales might have been like if Hawthorne had written them...


187 posted on 01/02/2020 5:55:36 PM PST by HartleyMBaldwin
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To: GingisK
Well, when I was young, I did prefer fiction to non-fiction, and started reading books by Robert Heinlein, when I was 9, you've got a somewhat skewed idea of what I may have or may not have read, nor when. And I was watching old FLASH GORDON movies and CAPTAIN VIDEO AND HIS VIDEO RANGERS on early T.V. to boot.

And "a matter of taste" has less than NOTHING whatsoever to do with my post that you jumped all over;. that was about historical knowledge and an error on another poster's part.

No, I can't say that I ever have seen an explosion, but then, not all that many kids/teens/adults have.

188 posted on 01/02/2020 5:59:50 PM PST by nopardons
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To: C19fan

I’ve slept through 5,000 hours of Hallmark Channel movies. I’ll bet some of the mass shooters were forced to watch.


189 posted on 01/02/2020 6:00:23 PM PST by gitmo (If your theology doesn't become your biography, what good is it?)
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To: GingisK

“Frankly, my dear, I don’t give a damn!”; to quote from GONE WITH THE WIND...which I read when I was 10.


190 posted on 01/02/2020 6:01:44 PM PST by nopardons
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To: HartleyMBaldwin
Thanks; we all have posted something we didn't mean to/shouldn't have, if only we had proof read and/or caught it afterwards. A edit button, here, would be great!

Hmmmmmmmmmm...had Hawthrone written THE LEATHERSTOCKING TALES, a ghost or two might have been thrown in someplace, or maybe a witch. The stories would have been even gloomier, perhaps!

But since Hawthrone was from Mass. and Cooper from was from upstate N.Y., they had rather different experiences and lives and Cooper was older than Hawthrone.

191 posted on 01/02/2020 6:11:55 PM PST by nopardons
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To: C19fan

I’ll take obvious things for $1,000 Alex.


192 posted on 01/02/2020 6:24:21 PM PST by EdnaMode
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To: dfwgator

I really liked this one too!


193 posted on 01/02/2020 8:10:56 PM PST by Max in Utah (A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within.)
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To: nopardons

What is disturbing about your posts is that you seem to be looking down your nose at other people based upon what they like to read. I hope that is an erroneous conclusion on my part.


194 posted on 01/02/2020 8:45:25 PM PST by GingisK
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To: ncpatriot
Did not follow the tone of book. I liked earlier movie versions better.

The last one I saw was in 1995, I think, with Susan Sarandon and Winona Ryder. That was kind of cringey too, with Marmee being all feminist and anti-corsets. The real Marmee was a totally traditional lady, who would want them to have their gloves on even if they were running from a fire, and who said the sweetest thing in life for a woman is to be loved by a good man. There's just really no feminist message to Little Women. Even Jo with her writing, didn't find success until a man, the one she married, told her all her adventure writing was trash, and to throw it away and write about something more wholesome.Why they keep trying to make this particular story a vehicle for feminism, I do not know.

195 posted on 01/02/2020 9:08:18 PM PST by A_perfect_lady (The greatest wealth is to live content with little. -Plato)
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To: cyclotic
As I was falling asleep, I was forced to listen to some lady drone on about how young women needed a governess.

Wow, you got all the way to the part where Elizabeth meets Lady Catherine de Burgh!

196 posted on 01/02/2020 9:10:03 PM PST by A_perfect_lady (The greatest wealth is to live content with little. -Plato)
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To: GingisK
You are "seeing" what YOU want to see;not what is there.

What is truly "disturbing", is that since you jumped into this, hectoring me at every turn, falsely claiming things about me and what I have written, you have utterly lost the thread of not only this "thread", but anything and everything that veered off from it.

Little Women is a book that was written for girls from about 8 years old through the tween/teen years.

The HARDY BOYS series of books were likewise written for a single audience...boys!

Whether girls, boys, men, or women like of dislike one or the other such book/films made from these books is a matter of taste. Also it is a matter of taste, though usually remakes and re, re, re, remakes of films stink on ice, whether one likes or dislike a certain movie is also a matter of taste.

NONE OF THE ABOVE IS WHAT CAUSED YOU TO JUMP IN AND ON ME; NOR YOUR CONTINUATION OF POSTING TO ME!

Then the discussion veered off in a somewhat different direction, with me agreeing with another poster about how looking down their collective noses, which some posters on this thread have done,vis-a-vis great lit/classics, is reprehensible, was called for. Is that what you are now complaining about? If so, you're out of line! We mentioned no work that just "HAD TO BE LIKED BY ALL"; just that these works should still be read and known.

If you are that bored and/or lonely, that you feel compelled to keep responding to me, in a passive/aggressive way, to start a row, then I pity you and you aren't any good at it to boot. So please desist and go find something else to occupy your time.

197 posted on 01/02/2020 9:14:37 PM PST by nopardons
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To: HartleyMBaldwin

those were good books too, Alcott had an interesting life.


198 posted on 01/03/2020 1:32:30 AM PST by Chickensoup (Voter ID for 2020!! Leftists totalitarian fascists appear to be planning to eradicate conservatives)
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To: C19fan

And, ironically, the same ‘feminists” who tell us there are as many sexes as there are mental illnesses, admit there is such a thing as “men”...I didn’t hear if they mentioned any of the alphabet communities...


199 posted on 01/03/2020 2:56:24 AM PST by trebb (Don't howl about illegal leeches, or Trump in general, while not donating to FR - it's hypocritical.)
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To: A_perfect_lady

I have no idea where that was in the length of the book. She may have started in the middle for all I know.


200 posted on 01/03/2020 5:22:44 AM PST by cyclotic (Democrats must be politically eviscerated, disemboweled and demolished.)
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