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War on Christmas in the Workplace - What’s Next?
American Center for Law and Justice ^ | 12/22/2019 | ACLJ

Posted on 12/22/2019 9:08:12 AM PST by tbw2

What are your rights regarding Christmas and religious expression in the workplace? Answers from an ACLJ attorney.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Society
KEYWORDS: christmas; law; legal; waronchristmas
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1 posted on 12/22/2019 9:08:12 AM PST by tbw2
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War on Christmas in the Workplace - What’s Next? Ep. 25
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9wiWDaWEOXw


2 posted on 12/22/2019 9:08:20 AM PST by tbw2
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What are your rights regarding Christmas and religious expression in the workplace?

Answer from me: Do what ever you want and keep the feds, who have no constitutional say, out of it.


3 posted on 12/22/2019 9:13:18 AM PST by Jim W N (MAGA by restoring the Gospel of the Grace of Christ and our Free Constitutional Republic!)
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At my school we have a Christmas tree in the cafeteria, a Christmas program, some staff do secret santa, and my husband & I bought for an angel tree child at school.

Lots of Christmas cards & gifts exchanged and given out this past Friday. I hope it never changes. For perspective.... We are in the south.


4 posted on 12/22/2019 9:17:04 AM PST by leaning conservative (snow coming, school cancelled, yayyyyyyyyy!!!!!!!!!!!)
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What are your rights regarding Christmas and religious expression in the workplace?

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press;


5 posted on 12/22/2019 9:17:19 AM PST by Bob434
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To: leaning conservative

It’s like that up here in North Idaho, too.


6 posted on 12/22/2019 9:25:41 AM PST by ProtectOurFreedom
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Nice! Merry Christmas FRiend.


7 posted on 12/22/2019 9:29:37 AM PST by leaning conservative (snow coming, school cancelled, yayyyyyyyyy!!!!!!!!!!!)
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Hey, all you haters, you get a day off work. Say thank you and shut up.


8 posted on 12/22/2019 9:31:27 AM PST by bgill
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Define Christmas in the workplace. Is this person pissed about Jesus or the fat man in the red suit?


9 posted on 12/22/2019 9:36:36 AM PST by Clutch Martin (The trouble ain't that there is too many fools, but that the lightning ain't distributed right.)
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To: leaning conservative

We did secret Santa and some people wear Christmas themed garb.

My secret Santa did very well. The limit was 20 bucks. Next year’s Dilbert 365 calendar and a gift certificate for the local dining establishment. The only one in the area. I go somewhat regularly.


10 posted on 12/22/2019 9:44:14 AM PST by wally_bert (Your methods were a little incomplete, you too for that matter.)
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To: leaning conservative

Merry Christmas to you and family, too, LC!


11 posted on 12/22/2019 9:45:16 AM PST by ProtectOurFreedom
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Christmas is fine in my workplace, so long as it restricted to reindeer and snowmen and there is no mention of Jesus.


12 posted on 12/22/2019 9:53:10 AM PST by kaehurowing
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Am I at FR or DU? There are some nasty people on this thread. Merry Christmas anyway.


13 posted on 12/22/2019 9:55:52 AM PST by Luke21
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To: tbw2

Able to express the Christian position. Though other beliefs are also expressed.


14 posted on 12/22/2019 10:30:04 AM PST by ealgeone
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To: Bob434
I have often thought about this and have no answer.

True, Congress shall not prohibit the free exercise thereof, AND what is not delegated to the federal shall go to the state ….

But

In THIS case, can states determine for themselves that Christmas is a religious holiday and is somehow un Constitutional ?

15 posted on 12/22/2019 10:32:01 AM PST by knarf (est line of the year !)
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The manager/owner of the grocery store I frequent said, “Merry Christmas” to me today. He’s not afraid of the PC people.


16 posted on 12/22/2019 10:55:34 AM PST by abclily
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well the state must obey the constitution- they can’t for instance declare Christianity or any religion against the law- they also can’t determine that religious holidays are illegal- unless they violate someone’s rights (Lets suppose a ‘religion’s’ practice is to steal other people’s property’- this is clearly a violation of people’s rights- so this ‘religion’s’ illegal practice would be be banned, and rightfully so)

I don’t believe a state can prohibit the free exercise of a religion UNLESS as stated above, it violates people’s actual rights (Note- offending someone is not illegal- people don’;t have a right to demand a religion or religious ceremony be made illegal simply because they are offended- only when it violates an actual right do they have the right to ask a government to ban it)

I think the key is does it violate an actual right? For instance, does Christmas force a person to convert under penalty of the law if they don’t? The answer of course is no it doesn’t- Simply because it might offend some folks doesn’t mean it’s unconstitutional


17 posted on 12/22/2019 10:56:28 AM PST by Bob434
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it’s just a shame that we have to actively search now for people still willing to merely say ‘Merry Christmas’ because so many folks have become afraid to say it in public anymore-


18 posted on 12/22/2019 10:58:09 AM PST by Bob434
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Where I work we are encouraged to say “Happy Holidays” to all customers. The word Christmas appears nowhere on the store’s advertisements. It is implied that “Merry Christmas” is not acceptable. In any event, if your employer is not a governmental agency and is a private company, they can tell you what to say and what not to say while you are on the premises and being paid by them.

The U.S. Constitution’s freedom of religion and freedom of speech guarantees are only between the government and the people, not between private property owners and their employees. Don’t bother flaming me, I don’t agree with it. But I have researched it. And heard it from HR department people. It’s the law.


19 posted on 12/22/2019 11:18:07 AM PST by 4Runner
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To: Bob434

Thanx, I needed that.


20 posted on 12/22/2019 11:26:39 AM PST by knarf (est line of the year !)
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