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To: jdsteel; eartick; Kalamata; Who is John Galt?; DiogenesLamp; central_va; BroJoeK; DoodleDawg; ...
“As I said, Context. The discussion was pertaining to the Civil War.”

Your post 502 made that plain. It reads in its entirety:
“I have heard many times that there was not one Whig or Republican slave owner owned slaves at the time of the Civil War. I know how to use a search engine I found many sources to confirm that.”

The problem with your statement: it is not true.

If you don't want to accept that from me, take it from Brother Joe who has become something of an expert on this matter. Said he: “So, yes, Burton was a slaveholder himself . . .” Burton was a Republican.

Brother Joe has thrown cold water on you.

And that brings to mind the ancient colloquial Choctaw valediction: oompa loompa doompety doo.

Translated it means: when your guardian angel of life urinates on your flintlock rifle, then you know your luck has done run out.

540 posted on 01/10/2020 4:02:06 PM PST by jeffersondem
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To: jeffersondem

LOL


541 posted on 01/10/2020 4:03:29 PM PST by txnativegop (The political left, Mankinds intellectual and political hemlock)
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To: jeffersondem

If it makes you feel better I will restate it in a way to make it more palatable to you.

There was not one Republican slave owner in the Southern States at the time of the civil war.

Feel better?


557 posted on 01/11/2020 8:31:34 AM PST by jdsteel (Americans are Dreamers too!!!)
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To: jeffersondem; jdsteel; eartick; Kalamata; Who is John Galt?; DiogenesLamp; central_va; ...
jeffersondem to jdsteel: "If you don't want to accept that from me, take it from Brother Joe who has become something of an expert on this matter.
Said he: “So, yes, Burton was a slaveholder himself . . .” Burton was a Republican.
Brother Joe has thrown cold water on you."

Sadly, jeffersondem can only accept whatever "expertise" I might have if it can be made to sound like I agree with him -- this case in point.
Here jdsteel made a perfectly valid observation -- there were no Republican slaveholders, certainly not in the Confederacy.
Indeed, there were very few Republicans in the South, period -- none voting in the Deep or Upper South.
In Border States & regions (i.e., western VA) Republicans averaged about 1% of the vote, except Missouri with 10% and Delaware with 24%.

And Delaware, with the fewest numbers of slaves and slaveholders is where history finds our famous Republican slaveholder -- an abolitionist named Benjamin Burton.

Burton hoped to achieve emancipation in Delaware by the same method as already used in Washington, DC -- gradual & compensated.
Lincoln hoped that same method could be applied nationally.

Their plan called for higher compensation in Delaware than in Washington, but perhaps not high enough, because Delaware's legislature defeated the proposal, twice.
So Delawareans were forced to accept abolition without compensation in December 1865, upon ratification of the 13th Amendment.

After the Civil War, Congress compensated thousands of Southern Unionists millions of dollars for damages they suffered.
Had abolitionist Burton's plan proved successful in Delaware, it may have become the pattern for also compensating slaveholders in Union states, though it's impossible to say now if that was enough to change history.

Benjamin Burton = Delaware abolitionist Republican slaveholder, supported compensated emancipation.

1,036 posted on 01/26/2020 9:48:26 AM PST by BroJoeK ((a little historical perspective...))
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