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To: Kalamata; OIFVeteran; DoodleDawg; rockrr
Kalamata to OIFVeteran: "I see you are still playing the moral-superiority card.
I thought you were done with that."

OIFVeteran merely pointed out that he met a small number of racists in the military, and somehow in Kalamata's warped mind that becomes "playing the moral-superiority card"?

Kalamata "You have lived a very sheltered life.
I ran into many racists in the military, but admittedly I served long before you. "

That is the first claim I've seen from Kalamata that he actually did serve, though curiously, he says it was so long ago there were still many racists then.
I too remember the military from very long ago and I can tell you it was always less racist than the civilian worlds most of the soldiers came from.

Kalamata: "The most racist people I have ever experienced were the town’s people of a Pennsylvania college I attended, but that too was long ago."

Pennsylvania is normally a "blue state" and voted for Democrats like pro-slavery Doughfaced Northerner James Buchanan in 1856.
On those rare occasions when Pennsylvania flips sides, we can help elect game-changing Republicans like Lincoln, Reagan and Trump.

In 1964 Pennsylvanians knowingly chose Lyndon Johnson's "Great Society" over Barry Goldwater's "Conscience of a Conservative".
So however racist you imagine those old Pennsylvanians were, there weren't enough of them to swing the election.

Kalamata "The South has already risen again."

The South was never down for long.
About 400,000 Southerners lost some of their "property", but within a few years they'd effectively nullified the 13th, 14th & 15th Amendments and restored their major export, cotton, to production levels well above antebellum levels.

Sure, even today Southerners on average earn less than Northerners, but it also costs less to live in the South and anyone accustomed to high taxes for Northern roads is always amazed to see Southern roads maintained at much lower costs.
And if your definition of "the good life" includes enjoying the relaxed outdoors with your family & friends, then it would be easy to construct a chart showing that the further North you travel, the less of that you find.

As of today, the center of gravity of Republican party voters is, I'd guess, somewhere around Hodgenville, Kentucky, Lincoln's birthplace, meaning roughly equal numbers of Republicans live North, South, East and West of that point.

But while Republicans North & East of Hodgenville are often in the minority, those in states South & West are more often the majority in their states.

444 posted on 01/08/2020 7:55:21 AM PST by BroJoeK ((a little historical perspective...))
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To: BroJoeK; OIFVeteran; DoodleDawg; rockrr

>>Kalamata to OIFVeteran: “I see you are still playing the moral-superiority card. I thought you were done with that.”
>>Joey wrote: “OIFVeteran merely pointed out that he met a small number of racists in the military, and somehow in Kalamata’s warped mind that becomes “playing the moral-superiority card”?”

Joey is contextually-challenged.

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>>Kalamata wrote: “You have lived a very sheltered life. I ran into many racists in the military, but admittedly I served long before you. “
>>Joey wrote: “That is the first claim I’ve seen from Kalamata that he actually did serve, though curiously, he says it was so long ago there were still many racists then. I too remember the military from very long ago and I can tell you it was always less racist than the civilian worlds most of the soldiers came from.”

Perhaps you fit in with the racists better than I did, Joey?

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>>Kalamata wrote: “The most racist people I have ever experienced were the town’s people of a Pennsylvania college I attended, but that too was long ago.”
>>Joey wrote: “Pennsylvania is normally a “blue state” and voted for Democrats like pro-slavery Doughfaced Northerner James Buchanan in 1856. On those rare occasions when Pennsylvania flips sides, we can help elect game-changing Republicans like Lincoln, Reagan and Trump.”

Lincoln was a crony-socialist, Joey, as was Buchanan.

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>>Kalamata wrote: “In 1964 Pennsylvanians knowingly chose Lyndon Johnson’s “Great Society” over Barry Goldwater’s “Conscience of a Conservative”. So however racist you imagine those old Pennsylvanians were, there weren’t enough of them to swing the election.”

I didn’t say “Pennsylvanians” were racist, Joey. I singled some out as racist.

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>>Kalamata wrote: “The South has already risen again.”
>>Joey wrote: “The South was never down for long. About 400,000 Southerners lost some of their “property”, but within a few years they’d effectively nullified the 13th, 14th & 15th Amendments and restored their major export, cotton, to production levels well above antebellum levels.”

Where are your sources, Joey?

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>>Kalamata wrote: “Sure, even today Southerners on average earn less than Northerners, but it also costs less to live in the South and anyone accustomed to high taxes for Northern roads is always amazed to see Southern roads maintained at much lower costs. And if your definition of “the good life” includes enjoying the relaxed outdoors with your family & friends, then it would be easy to construct a chart showing that the further North you travel, the less of that you find. But while Republicans North & East of Hodgenville are often in the minority, those in states South & West are more often the majority in their states.”

Joey finally said something I am in complete agreement with. Our property taxes are now roughly 25% of what they were in PA, on approximately the same size home and lot.

Mr. Kalamata


485 posted on 01/09/2020 11:34:46 AM PST by Kalamata (BIBLE RESEARCH TOOLS: http://bibleresearchtools.com/)
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