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On this date in 1864 President Lincoln receives a Christmas gift.

Posted on 12/22/2019 4:23:47 AM PST by Bull Snipe

"I beg to present you as a Christmas gift the City of Savannah, with one hundred and fifty heavy guns and plenty of ammunition and about twenty-five thousand bales of cotton." General William T. Sherman's "March to the Sea" was over. During the campaign General Sherman had made good on his promise d “to make Georgia howl”. Atlanta was a smoldering ruin, Savannah was in Union hands, closing one of the last large ports to Confederate blockade runners. Sherman’s Army wrecked 300 miles of railroad and numerous bridges and miles of telegraph lines. It seized 5,000 horses, 4,000 mules, and 13,000 head of cattle. It confiscated 9.5 million pounds of corn and 10.5 million pounds of fodder, and destroyed uncounted cotton gins and mills. In all, about 100 million dollars of damage was done to Georgia and the Confederate war effort.


TOPICS: History
KEYWORDS: abrahamlincoln; civilwar; dontstartnothin; greatestpresident; northernaggression; savannah; sherman; skinheadsonfr; southernterrorists; thenexttroll; throughaglassdarkly; wtsherman
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To: DoodleDawg

>>DoodleDawg wrote: “I’m in good company then, Pops.”

You most certainly are, kid. There are a lot of crazy people out there that have been thoroughly brainwashed just like you.

Mr. Kalamata


781 posted on 01/18/2020 3:44:38 AM PST by Kalamata (BIBLE RESEARCH TOOLS: http://bibleresearchtools.com/)
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To: Kalamata; DoodleDawg

You really are delusional. “No one in their right mind”? Lincoln is consistently rated as one of the best Presidents of all time by both historians and Americans. There has been 1000 of books written about him, places named after him, and monuments to him.

The only group of people I have consistently encountered with such venomous hatred towards Lincoln are white supremacist and neo-nazis. Which are you?


782 posted on 01/18/2020 3:54:19 AM PST by OIFVeteran
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To: OIFVeteran

>>OIFVeteran wrote: “You really are delusional. “No one in their right mind”? Lincoln is consistently rated as one of the best Presidents of all time by both historians and Americans.”

Marxists control all of the rating organizations, dummy.

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>>OIFVeteran wrote: “There has been 1000 of books written about him, places named after him, and monuments to him.”

That was also true of Hitler, Stalin, and Mao. Do you worship them, dummy?

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>>OIFVeteran wrote: “The only group of people I have consistently encountered with such venomous hatred towards Lincoln are white supremacist and neo-nazis. Which are you?”

When did you quit beating your wife, dummy?

Like I said earlier, you are a disgrace to the uniform, provide you ever wore one, which I doubt.

Mr. Kalamata


783 posted on 01/18/2020 4:06:01 AM PST by Kalamata (BIBLE RESEARCH TOOLS: http://bibleresearchtools.com/)
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To: Kalamata
You most certainly are, kid. There are a lot of crazy people out there that have been thoroughly brainwashed just like you.

And a lot of delusional people out there just like you.

784 posted on 01/18/2020 4:10:35 AM PST by DoodleDawg
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To: DoodleDawg

>>Kalamata wrote: “There are a lot of crazy people out there that have been thoroughly brainwashed just like you.
>>DoodleDawg wrote: “And a lot of delusional people out there just like you.”

Can I assume that you and the Marxists have a lock on history?

Mr. Kalamata


785 posted on 01/18/2020 4:17:21 AM PST by Kalamata (BIBLE RESEARCH TOOLS: http://bibleresearchtools.com/)
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To: Kalamata

You are free to assume any foolish notion that suits your fancy. Your posting history demonstrates that you suffer the affinity of bright shiny objects...


786 posted on 01/18/2020 7:27:17 AM PST by rockrr ( Everything is different now...)
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To: Kalamata

I don’t know if your trying to get a rise out of me or what, but it’s not going to work. I started this conversation with you because I was under the belief that you were a man of reason. I was mistaken. Now I just find you amusing. I will say that your much more controlled than other people I’ve seen rant like you. Usually by now they are spouting all kinds of racist nonsense. Of course jimrob doesn’t tolerate racism on this site so maybe your just being cautious.

Any luck finding a statement from Jefferson Davis that he believed all men everywhere should be free?


787 posted on 01/18/2020 8:03:09 AM PST by OIFVeteran
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To: Kalamata
Can I assume that you and the Marxists have a lock on history?

You lost the argument when you started labeling anyone who opposed you as Marxists and Lincoln apologists and Lincoln himself a "blood-thirsty tyrant" and "white supremacist".

788 posted on 01/18/2020 8:48:31 AM PST by DoodleDawg
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To: rockrr

>>rockrr, a.k.a. Soros Bot wrote: “You are free to assume any foolish notion that suits your fancy. Your posting history demonstrates that you suffer the affinity of bright shiny objects...”

Child.

Mr. Kalamata


789 posted on 01/18/2020 10:33:51 AM PST by Kalamata (BIBLE RESEARCH TOOLS: http://bibleresearchtools.com/)
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To: OIFVeteran; BroJoeK; jeffersondem; DiogenesLamp; Who is John Galt?; Bull Snipe

>>OIFVeteran wrote: “I don’t know if your trying to get a rise out of me or what, but it’s not going to work. I started this conversation with you because I was under the belief that you were a man of reason. I was mistaken. Now I just find you amusing.”

I am a man of reason. You are the one who assumed God loves violence, not me. But, then again, how could you love the blood-thirsty terrorist, Abraham Lincoln, if you didn’t love violence?

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>>OIFVeteran wrote: “I will say that your much more controlled than other people I’ve seen rant like you. Usually by now they are spouting all kinds of racist nonsense.”

I am the opposite of a racist. I will agree that you are a race-baiter, as was your white supremacist patron saint, Abraham Lincoln. He played the Race Card far better than Jesse Jackson.

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>>OIFVeteran wrote: “Of course jimrob doesn’t tolerate racism on this site so maybe your just being cautious.”

You are the one praising the die-hard racist named Abraham Lincoln, not me.

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>>OIFVeteran wrote: “Any luck finding a statement from Jefferson Davis that he believed all men everywhere should be free?”

I am no expert on the slave master, Jefferson Davis; and I told you there was no such statement, that I am aware of. Why are you still harping on it? Are you are still trying to take the heat off of the white-supremacist race-baiter name Abraham Lincoln by playing the game of moral equivalency? Isn’t that what progressives do? Are you trying to deflect us from the knowledge that Lincoln’s hero was a slave-master named Henry Clay? Just curious . . .

Mr. Kalamata


790 posted on 01/18/2020 11:06:47 AM PST by Kalamata (BIBLE RESEARCH TOOLS: http://bibleresearchtools.com/)
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To: DoodleDawg

>>>DoodleDawg wrote: “You lost the argument when you started labeling anyone who opposed you as Marxists and Lincoln apologists and Lincoln himself a “blood-thirsty tyrant” and “white supremacist”

The usurpation of power is tyranny; and Lincoln’s own words make him a white supremacist. Just saying . . .

Mr. Kalamata


791 posted on 01/18/2020 11:20:29 AM PST by Kalamata (BIBLE RESEARCH TOOLS: http://bibleresearchtools.com/)
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To: Kalamata

You doing good with clown posse

Plus one


792 posted on 01/18/2020 11:32:24 AM PST by wardaddy (I applaud Jim Robinson for his comments on the Southern Monuments decision ...thank you)
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To: wardaddy

Only in your dreams.


793 posted on 01/18/2020 12:08:03 PM PST by OIFVeteran
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To: Kalamata

Now that’s rich, your the master of deflection. Jefferson Davis was both a racist and believer in slavery. Abraham Lincoln was a racist(though he came around to political equality for some blacks by the end of the war) and anti-slavery. This puts him head and shoulders above Davis in moral superiority.

Here is a simple question that I think even you can answer. What event caused South Carolina to rebel against he Union?


794 posted on 01/18/2020 12:10:27 PM PST by OIFVeteran
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To: OIFVeteran
I almost missed this post.

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>>OIFVeteran wrote: "You really are delusional."

Someone is, for certain.

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>>OIFVeteran wrote: "Lincoln is consistently rated as one of the best Presidents of all time by both historians and Americans."

The Left controls the narrative (the news, media, education, science, and history,) and there is no doubt that Left loves dictators. My rule of thumb is, if the Left likes it, I am cautious about it. The Left loves Lincoln. Shouldn't that at least raise a red flag?

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>>OIFVeteran wrote: "There has been 1000 of books written about him, places named after him, and monuments to him."

So what? For at least a half-century after his death, Lincolnites controlled everything, including the historical narrative. Thankfully, there are many books still available from the 1830's through the 1870's that tell the other side.

BTW, I have at least 100 books on Lincoln, and access to hundreds more. I recommend, as a first read, this book by Lysander Spooner, an abolitionist from the days of Lincoln. Before reading, be reminded that Lincoln and Clay despised abolitionists:

"The pretence that the"abolition of slavery" was either a motive or justification for the war, is a fraud of the same character with that of "maintaining the national honor." Who, but such usurpers, robbers, and murderers as they, ever established slavery? Or what government, except one resting upon the sword, like the one we now have, was ever capable of maintaining slavery? And why did these men abolish slavery? Not from any love of liberty in general – not as an act of justice to the black man himself, but only "as a war measure," and because they wanted his assistance, and that of his friends, in carrying on the war they had undertaken for maintaining and intensifying that political, commercial, and industrial slavery, to which they have subjected the great body of the people, both white and black. And yet these impostors now cry out that they have abolished the chattel slavery of the black man – although that was not the motive of the war – as if they thought they could thereby conceal, atone for, or justify that other slavery which they were fighting to perpetuate, and to render more rigorous and inexorable than it ever was before. There was no difference of principle – but only of degree – between the slavery they boast they have abolished, and the slavery they were fighting to preserve; for all restraints upon men's natural liberty, not necessary for the simple maintenance of justice, are of the nature of slavery, and differ from each other only in degree." [Lysander Spooner, "No Treason: The Constitution of No Authority Vol VI." By the Author, 1867, pp.56-57]

That book can be freely downloaded here:

Download: "No Treason,Volume VI," by Lysander Spooner

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>>OIFVeteran wrote: "The only group of people I have consistently encountered with such venomous hatred towards Lincoln are white supremacist and neo-nazis. Which are you?"

When did you quit beating your wife?

Are you still unaware that Lincoln was a white supremacist? Are you still unaware that Lincoln's consolidation of power was the same tactic that Stalin, Mao and Hitler used to become dictators? One would rightly think that white supremacists and neo-nazis would love Lincoln. Perhaps they do.

Mr. Kalamata

795 posted on 01/18/2020 12:21:38 PM PST by Kalamata (BIBLE RESEARCH TOOLS: http://bibleresearchtools.com/)
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To: OIFVeteran; wardaddy; jeffersondem; DiogenesLamp; Who is John Galt?

>>OIFVeteran wrote: “Now that’s rich, your the master of deflection. Jefferson Davis was both a racist and believer in slavery.”

I barely mentioned Jefferson Davis, except when you and other Lincoln-lovers bring up Davis to deflect from Lincoln’s white supremacy, white-separatism, and tyranny against the Northern people.

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>>OIFVeteran wrote: “Abraham Lincoln was a racist(though he came around to political equality for some blacks by the end of the war) and anti-slavery. This puts him head and shoulders above Davis in moral superiority.”

Davis was a racist slave-master. Lincoln was a racist, power-hungry, blood-thirsty terrorist who defied international standards for warfare — standards intended to protect civilians — by his plunder, pillaging and burning of civilian properties throughout the South. The dictator Lincoln set the standard for total warfare that was adopted by future dictators, leading to hundreds of millions of deaths.

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>>OIFVeteran wrote: “Here is a simple question that I think even you can answer. What event caused South Carolina to rebel against he Union?”

There was no “one” event, but in general it was economics. Lincoln was a crony-capitalist and there were no cronies in South Carolina during the antebellum period. An example of a crony would be Pennsylvania’s Thaddeus Stevens, who traded his votes in Congress for special favors from the government that would give a financial boost to his iron/steel manufacturing business.

That is probably way over your head.

Mr. Kalamata


796 posted on 01/18/2020 1:10:49 PM PST by Kalamata (BIBLE RESEARCH TOOLS: http://bibleresearchtools.com/)
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To: Kalamata
The usurpation of power is tyranny; and Lincoln’s own words make him a white supremacist. Just saying . . .

You find nothing wrong with tyranny, only one many you view as a tyrant. And you see nothing wrong with any white supremacist except for one. Just saying...

797 posted on 01/18/2020 1:19:05 PM PST by DoodleDawg
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To: DoodleDawg

>>DoodleDawg whined: “You find nothing wrong with tyranny, only one many you view as a tyrant. And you see nothing wrong with any white supremacist except for one. Just saying...”

Deceitful child.


798 posted on 01/18/2020 1:52:39 PM PST by Kalamata (BIBLE RESEARCH TOOLS: http://bibleresearchtools.com/)
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To: Kalamata
Deceitful child.

Pompous twit.

799 posted on 01/18/2020 2:54:50 PM PST by DoodleDawg
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To: OIFVeteran

You’re doing good with kkklown posse

Plus one


800 posted on 01/18/2020 4:51:14 PM PST by rockrr ( Everything is different now...)
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