Posted on 12/20/2019 12:12:16 PM PST by Pelham
The title is one that I had to create since this is taken from Beck's radio show.
Did you know that American history is divided between those who brought to the New World Kindness, Good Relations, and Freedom?
Versus those who "came over to rape this land" and who brought Misery, Slavery, Abuse, and eventually Cannibalism?
Well you can learn all about it from master historian Glenn Beck, who is planning to share this Forgotten History with lucky Americans in his coming "Restoring the Covenant" Crusade.
(Excerpt) Read more at player.fm ...
https://player.fm/series/the-glenn-beck-radio-program/the-glenn-beck-program-hour-2-122019
In case you haven't guessed, the Pilgrims are the Real Americans in this story, and the Jamestown colonists are the Forces of Satan whom the good people of New England deservedly slaughtered circa 1860.
Of course the fact that Washington, Jefferson, Madison, Monroe, Mason, and Henry were descended from the evil Jamestown rapists, slavers & cannibals isn't discussed, but you can't expect everything.
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I had Beck on for background noise this morning and heard that crap. Made me want to fire up the wagon and head to Texas (or wherever) and punch that snot nosed bastid in the nose.
Then I figured it wouldn’t be worth the gas and just turned it off.
Screw Glenn Beck and his sycophants.
Is beck back on the sauce?
Or was he permanently brain damaged?
Of course Beck has it exactly backwards. Those intolerant, socialist, religious fanatic, Johnny-come-latelys up New England are and have always been a malign influence on America. The biggest mistake the South ever made was backing New England in their quarrel with the mother country. They should have just sat back and watched the Brits crush them.
Then there was that 5000 Year Leap book or whatever.
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I’ll wait for the Movie.
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Not a history buff but your idea intrigues me. How would that have played out? A south of the continent belonging to the King, and some kind of new America in the north? Cause people NEVER fight with their neighbors.... ;)
Not sure I understand. Is Beck arguing that the settlers in New England brought kindness, good relations and freedom whereas those in Jamestown came over to rape the land and brought misery, slavery, abuse and cannibalism?
I guess beck’s been hearing the wolf cry to the blue corn moon lately.
“Is beck back on the sauce?”
Probably not. He’s just getting drunk on a kind of moral preening that goes all the way back to New England’s jealousy over Jamestown and Virginia dominating early American history.
This jealousy played a large role in leading to the Civil War. A good history of it is found in Thomas Fleming’s “A Disease In The Public Mind”.
Beck isn’t any kind of scholar himself. What he’s doing here is repeating material that he’s being fed by some writers he’s relied on the past. I can think of a couple who are his most likely sources.
He’s been a “second-hander” from way back.
New England trying to fight on its own gets utterly crushed.
Had we broadly gone down the same path as Australia or Canada or New Zealand, wed be fine. I dont see any reason why it would have played out differently.
He’s saying exactly that. Fast forward to the 19 minute mark and you’ll hear it in all of its glory:
https://player.fm/series/the-glenn-beck-radio-program/the-glenn-beck-program-hour-2-122019
I would suggest that there are different ‘versions’ of Jamestown. There’s the original folks, who screwed up on the arrival date....arriving at the start of winter, and did resort to some cannibalism. Ten years later, the 2.0 version of Jamestown had reached a level of farming and needed ‘hands’, and a small ship brought in around 20 Angolan ‘prisoners’ who would gain indentured worker status (being released in a couple of years).
Within fifty years, they’d reached the rebellion stage (version 3).
After that rebellion era, the area kinda dried-up and became a marginal place to live. The significance was gone by the mid-1700s.
I really am brainwashed by our amazing founders. My #1 political love is for freedom. So while you are correct, Im so proud of what they tried to do.
#humannaturesometimessucks
Glenn beck is an idiot and charlatan.
Yeah, the cannibalism has to be Beck’s best charge.
Whoever is feeding him his distorted “history” is basing the cannibalism charge on “The Starving Time”, the winter of 1609-1610 in Jamestown, when 2/3 of the colonials died of food shortages and attacks by the Powhatan Indians.
They were reduced to eating horses, shoe leather, cats and dogs and finally the corpses of those who had already died.
This was over a decade before the Noble & Godly Pilgrims even set sail. I have very early Jamestown roots but I don’t know that I can claim one of the Cannibals as an ancestor.
“The significance was gone by the mid-1700s.”
The significance of what?
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