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1 posted on 12/05/2019 6:37:12 AM PST by C19fan
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Ping.


2 posted on 12/05/2019 6:50:47 AM PST by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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Bump


3 posted on 12/05/2019 6:59:46 AM PST by painter ( Isaiah: �Woe to those who call evil good and good evil,")
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Not to be confused with the WWII battleship Scharnhorst which sank near Norway and the Arctic Circle.


5 posted on 12/05/2019 7:03:39 AM PST by ClearCase_guy (If White Privilege is real, why did Elizabeth Warren lie about being an Indian?)
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Today I went to my 92yo MIL home to assist with cleaning and shopping.
The light downstairs was on when I was putting out garbage and the WW2 bomb shelter door caught my eye so I took a picture.
I showed my wife and she said she once had a Birthday Party there.
I told her her lets do this New Years Eve in it.
7 posted on 12/05/2019 7:06:01 AM PST by Berlin_Freeper
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8 posted on 12/05/2019 7:07:12 AM PST by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire. Or both.)
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9 posted on 12/05/2019 7:11:51 AM PST by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire. Or both.)
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“The wreck was not disturbed during the operation and the Falkland Maritime Heritage Trust is seeking to have the site formally protected in law.”

I hope that efforts to legally protect this site honoring German war dead are successful - even as memorials in the public square honoring American war dead are being destroyed by mobs encouraged by weak politicians.


10 posted on 12/05/2019 7:12:14 AM PST by jeffersondem
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She was sunk by two Brirush battle cruisers under Admiral Sturdee. Probably the only time they were employed as originally conceived


13 posted on 12/05/2019 7:24:39 AM PST by Jimmy Valentine (DemocRATS - when they speak, they lie; when they are silent, they are stealing the American Dream)
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To: StayAt HomeMother; Ernest_at_the_Beach; 1ofmanyfree; 21twelve; 24Karet; 2ndDivisionVet; 31R1O; ...
Thanks C19fan.
SMS Scharnhorst was the flagship of German Vice-Admiral Maximilian Graf von Spee's East Asia Squadron. It was sunk on 8 December 1914 with more than 800 men on board, including Vice-Adm von Spee himself.

20 posted on 12/05/2019 8:54:04 AM PST by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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With 20/20 hindsight, I always thought that Spee screwed up when he ran for it. I understand that when they saw the tripod masts, they knew they were outgunned and made a run for it. I guess they forgot that they were up against faster ships as well, and that he'd be run down, no matter what the lead.

The British ships, even though alerted, were in harbor but didn't have up a full head of steam and were sitting ducks, as some were coaling. There was also the possibility of sinking any ship in the harbor's mouth and bottling up the fleet. Spee's ships all had torpedo tubes and, IMO, could have done some serious damage.

Sure, they would have been blown apart, but some of the survivors might have made it to shore. The argument still goes on with enough arguments pro and con to make the "What Ifs" ambiguous.

Two light cruisers of that China squadron created some "Holy Cow" history:

The Emden raised pure Hell in the Indian Ocean before being tracked down off the Cocos islands and run aground to prevent sinking. The stranded 53-man landing crew grabbed a schooner and sailed it to Yemen, fought through British-paid Arabs and six months and almost 7,000 miles later made it back to Germany with only four lost.

Another Emden officer escaped the British POW camp, made it through the ENTIRE length of Borneo, was recaptured and then, in Singapore, instigated a revolt of the Indian troops there.

The Konigsberg ran for Africa, holed up in the Rufigi delta, was damaged beyond repair. The crew took her 10-gun armament, converted them to field pieces and joined von Lettow-Vorbeck's guerrilla campaign.

In 1976 the Brits made a VERY loosely based movie on that one, but if you delve into the history of some of these "minor" WW I naval battles, you see the potential for a series of great war/adventure films.

Those guys were made of sterner stuff than what we see in Germany today.

26 posted on 12/05/2019 10:52:10 AM PST by Oatka
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In the Falklands, what a great place.


27 posted on 12/05/2019 4:53:09 PM PST by rdl6989
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From Wiki:

“The complete destruction of the German squadron killed about 2,200 German sailors and officers, including two of Spee’s sons.”

“All 860 officers and men on board Scharnhorst, including Spee, went down with the ship.”

28 posted on 12/05/2019 10:18:20 PM PST by zeestephen
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