Posted on 12/01/2019 3:22:05 PM PST by Retain Mike
I saw it a few weeks ago.
It’s a great movie and historically accurate.
10/10.
We saw it few weeks ago. Great movie, very informative. Highly recommend you go see it.
I actually learned something from the movie. I thought they had made a mistake, but it was I who was mistaken. The Arashi was where it was for a different reason than I thought.
The first sentence of the second paragraph is about thee “public perception” of what happened on 12/7/41 was wrong. What public perception? The American people knew that Pearl Harbor and Hawaii were attacked by the Japanese and that the U.S.S. Arizona was lost. They did not know that 4 battleships were sunk and more than 2,000 Americans were killed. Why would the Navy share that information with the enemy?
I’ve always wondered what the orders were to the Japanese pilots flying Combat Air Patrol?
Were they all supposed to go after the first targets?
Clearer orders to them (“Half go after the Torpedo planes the other half go after dive bombers.”) might have made a big difference.
The training for the Japanese Navy Pilots was superb.
They had not built up a reserve of trained pilots because their selection methods were so strict and their training program so long.
Just like the President now, Admiral Nimitz, his commanders, his sailors & airmen were the right men at the right place at the right time.
Well, not it’s not.
1) Spruance was with the Enterprise/Hornet, NOT at Pearl when the battle commenced.
2) Nimitz would not have been at all surprised about the “AF” confirmation because he approved it.
3) Yorktown was NOT with the Enterprise/Hornet task force but sailed later, which made its arrival all the more timely.
4) Yamamoto never said “I fear we have awakened a sleeping giant.” He may have believed that, but there is no record of him ever saying it.
5) The Japanese were NOT planning to extend their perimeter until the Doolittle raid. Despite logic, they somehow thought the raid came from Midway.
6) The movie doesn’t mention Yamamoto’s fateful (and poor) decision to send two carriers to the Aleutians in a feint. This was SOP, but in this case, those two carriers would have finished off the American carriers had they been in the fight.
7) The movie most importantly completely missed the fact that Spruance, the senior commander at Midway, willingly turned over all operational flight control to Jack Fletcher, his junior, because Fletcher had carrier experience. This was something you never would have seen in the Japanese Navy, nor even the Royal Navy for that matter.
While these didn’t substantially damage the film, it’s far less historically accurate than the 1976 “Midway.”
Editorially, while it was ok, the movie tried to do way too much by including Pearl and Doolittle. It took away from the real tactics and skill (and luck) of the American forces in battle.
AND BOY DID THE 1976 FREAKING SUCK!!!
:)
Thank God for remakes, even if they are not PERFECT.
Few things in life are.
They were utterly astounded at the Torpedo Bomber squadron that sacrificed themselves so they could try to sink the carriers (with that crappy torpedo!). We also showed them that we actually had more bravery, courage, and honor than the Japanese themselves....they were willing to sacrifice their whole country because they didn't reckon on America being willing to die for their country.
I watched a You Tube video by a guy who I think was German. It lasted something like 48 minutes. A lot of reasons we won but I think the main one was the Japanese greatly underestimated the American’s aggressiveness.
Another thing was the American carriers had good fire/damage control and were built with a system to suppress fires. The Japanese carriers, on the other hand, were death traps and they did not have a good system for putting out fires.
We had a lot of misconceptions about the Japanese that were deadly for us. I will say that the Pacific war was a race war ON BOTH SIDES. both sides had contempt for the other, and reacted accordingly.
Thank you for this reminder of great men who served and preserved our nation
Not just crappy torpedos, the only thing the Devastator torpedo plane devastated was the crews. Our Avengers were coming but very few saw action. The torpedos still sucked for them and our subs. When things got straightened out, Japanese Iron started rusting on the bottom.
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