Posted on 11/11/2019 6:30:02 AM PST by tired&retired
In general, non-US citizens employed in the United States are required to pay FICA taxes. However, those with single intent (i.e. expected to return back to their home country post their intended purpose in the US), or non-immigrant status (or F1 visa holders) are exempt from FICA taxes.
IRS guidelines confirm that F-visas, J-visas, M-visas, Q-visas, Nonresident Alien students, scholars, professors, teachers, trainees, researchers, physicians, au pairs, summer camp workers, and other aliens temporarily present in the United States in F-1, J-1, M-1, or Q-1/Q-2 nonimmigrant status are exempt from FICA taxes on wages paid to them for services performed within the United States as long as such services are allowed by USCIS for these nonimmigrant statuses, and such services are performed to carry out the purposes for which such visas were issued to them.
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Yep. Social Security is just anther tax, particularly since they lost the ‘lockbox’.
>>>There should be no incentive for US companies to hire foreign workers over US Citizens in our own country.
Here is a good place to start that discussion.
Mar-a-Lago, the so-called “winter White House,” is looking to hire 80 workers from other countries this year, a move that could bring out critics of Donald Trump.
The resort, which received 78 H-2B visas in 2018-19 is looking to slightly increase the number for the coming year. A separate request by the Trump Organization seeks 14 visas for workers at the Trump National Golf Club in nearby Jupiter, Fla.
I’ve observed it first hand.
They come on exempt Visa, then marry a US spouse to stay. It’s an immigration side road that is heavily traveled.
True. I remember the Bellevue Washington Social Security Office full of Indians and Chinese all getting benefits. Disgusting.
Some of the companies actually run foreign training programs to skim only the best to bring here.
They have to wait, I think 5 years, but they eventually pay in and get benefits. This allows their extended family benefits, as has been reported for years.
Can you prove that Donald Trump doesn’t have a cabbage for a brain? If not, then it must be true!
If you don’t pay payroll taxes, you don’t get SS and Medicare. The downside is that it makes hiring foreign workers more attractive.
“No offense, but posting a claim here and then telling someone to prove it false is an infantile way to make a point.”
Offense taken, since your opinion is no more valid than mine. So you need to prove your opinion every bit as much as you challenge others to prove theirs.
Typical Canadian liberal.
“This is not fair...”
There’s that overly used commie word again, “FAIR”.
The world isn’t fair. Never was nor will it ever be fair.
That doesn’t stop socialists and commies from whining about fairness though.
We’ve Americans, we overcome adversity and non-level playing fields. We can do something about it, by telling our representatives not to support illegals or aliens coming to this country to replace us.
That’s not the way it works. You made the assertion. Please provide evidence.
I think that the idea is that the temporary workers are not going to stay around long enough to collect Social Security, so it is unfair for them to have to pay FICA taxes.
“That’s not the way it works. You made the assertion. Please provide evidence.”
Sounds like you just made an assertion. Prove your assertion. Your words carry no more weight than mine, so prove what you just said.
Not true.
“Not true.”
prove it.
Here is one benefit.. they are eligible for the US International Student Loan Program
Social Security Numbers and International Student Loans
Many international students who choose to study in the United States will look into obtaining student loans to help fund their studies. If this is the case with you, you may find that some lenders require that you have a Social Security Number (SSN) in order to apply (and other lenders may not). SSNs are assigned to people who are authorized to work in the United States, and are used to report your wages to the government and to determine eligibility for Social Security benefits.
Once upon a time I paid people for a living.
Worked at a hospital in Baltimore. They hired some guy from Pakistan. They demanded I stop FICA withholding from his pay.
I yelled and carried on and said can’t do.
But oh yeah they can.
Lookit, they are not getting credit for any money paid into SS. Even IF, at a later date, they pursue and get a citizenship, THEY GET NO CREDIT FOR PAYING IN AT THAT TIME. This is simple, it’s because they didn’t.
I don’t think this is really a bad thing although it messes up payroll. And no, the employer does not have to pay the match. Why should people have to pay into a program they will never use? And, as I said earlier, if they decide later to retire in America, they get no credit for money they never paid in.
And bud, I have no idea where this extended family benefits comes from. Nobody gets extended family benefits from FICA.
Per the SSA
The Social Security Protection Act of 2004 (P.L. 108-203) requires an alien whose application for benefits is based on an SSN assigned January 1, 2004, or later to have work authorization at the time an SSN is assigned, or at some later time, to gain insured status under the Social Security program.
Aliens whose applications are based on SSNs assigned before January 1, 2004, may count all covered earnings toward insured status, regardless of work authorization. The Social Security Act also prohibits the payment of benefits to aliens in the United States who are not “lawfully present”; however, under certain circumstances, alien workers as well as their dependents and survivors may receive benefits while residing outside the United States (including benefits based on unauthorized work).
1. I don't think they get any credit for uncovered years.
2. Even if they DO become citizens, it's very difficult to get "extended family" (especially OLDER family members) in the country legally. I know a legal immigrant who is now a U.S. citizen who has given up on getting his mother moved here to the U.S. after trying for years.
3. This thread is filled with ignorant posts from people who apparently don't even understand what the visas listed here are. They are non-immigrant visas, and the FICA tax issue is irrelevant for some of these visas because someone living here temporarily under one of those visas isn't even allowed to work.
Typical Canadian liberal.
If I was a Canadian you might have a point. If I was a liberal you might have another point. But you're 0 for 2 on this one, chief. :-)
The guy at my hospital, he was a doctor. He worked.
Don’t think you got that right.
The INTERNAL REVENUE SERVICE CALLED ME UP AND TOLD ME NOT TO WITHHOLD FICA FROM THE GUY.
The IRS knew he was working.
Going out on a limb here, I think the IRS knows more than most on thread. They called me because I refused to stop FICA and the hospital had the IRS call me personally but guess what?
I WAS WRONG!
It happens.
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