Posted on 10/02/2019 9:33:26 AM PDT by Navy Patriot
A former police officer who argued she had a right to use lethal force when she killed an innocent man after mistakenly entering his apartment has been convicted of murder.
Amber Guyger faces a lengthy prison sentence after a jury found her guilty of the murder of Botham Jean in Dallas on 6 September last year – a verdict Jean family attorneys hailed as a significant moment in the battle to hold police accountable.
Guyger is white. Jean was black. Guyger is the first Dallas police department officer to be convicted of murder since the 1970s, the Dallas Morning News reported.
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How sad. Poor guy.
And, while she was on the phone with 911, she was still sending texts to her partner. She should’ve been rendering aid to the man she shot.
She probably did enter the apartment accidentally, but every decision she made afterward just made everything worse.
You ducked my question!
Every time I’m asked to go, I wear my Metallica ‘Kill ‘Em All’ T-shirt, an NRA hat, and carry a Watchtower and an Amway catalog.
She claims she didn’t know she wasn’t at her door. She claims the door was open. She claims she thought there was a burglar in there. She claims she told him to put up his hands. She claims she was scared. She claims she is sorry. I’ll go along with her being sorry. A sorry excuse for a person.
Somehow a guy eating ice cream and watching tv and never gets off the couch is supposed to be threatening to an armed cop. Uh, no. She couldn’t have taken two seconds to see the couch wasn’t hers or waited for him to respond but noooo, she immediately murdered him on the spot.
Yes that’s a good point.
Shooting the man because you didn't expend enough thought to determine if he was a threat, is a crime. The rest is not a crime.
Someone needlessly died and the lady cop was at fault at every step of the incident.
Firing the gun at him was the only step for which she has committed an actual crime. Accidentally walking into a wrong door is not a crime.
The man was innocent and doing no harm to anyone and in his own home. He has no fault in this.
Agree. Absolutely. The woman is completely to blame for shooting an innocent man, and she deserves to go to prison for her mistake.
But let us be clear, what she did was a "mistake". There was no criminal intent to kill that man.
Had Mr Jean wondered into the cop’s apartment and shot her dead, we would be talking about a death penalty case.
I go to the right house. Is she a f’ing zombie or something?
I think "WTF???" And I start looking at my surroundings very carefully. I've lived in apartment complexes with numerous essentially identical buildings. Even there, the not-so subtle details give away whether or not one is in the right place. The trigger-happy jerk murderer failed to do this. And then she killed a man without any moral or legal justification to do so.
I think you're trying to make excuses for a murderer. I suggest you take a good long look in the mirror, illuminated by your truth-seeking lamp, and question your own motivation for making those excuses.
Should have been manslaughter, based on what I have read. But murder? No way.
“”Criminal intent” is what makes something a crime.”
Where is the criminal intent?
acting negligently - The defendant was not aware of the risk, but should have been aware of the risk
Yup.
She certainly is guilty of homicide.
Yup.
Makes me wonder how she got to be a cop in the first place.
Affirmative action.
"Botham Jean's life was taken by the feminist movement and the women's rights movement. They have cursed our society with women in positions of power and responsibility they genetically cannot handle. All in the name of some perverse conception of equality. We are sitting ducks as a result of the political mental illnesses our elected officials seem to become afflicted with once they reach the halls of power. Our military is still at it. But those chickens have yet to come home to roost."224 posted on 10/1/2019, 1:29:21 PM by 4Runner
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/3782781/posts?page=224#224
Quite so. And nobody on this forum would be making excuses for him.
Now … Suppose Mr. Jean had been armed … and he had shot the armed intruder who just burst into his home uninvited. What would have been the result of that?
I think I said "texting" when I first replied to you, but let me clarify. She was "sexting" with her married lover about having sex with him.
I think that might increase the obsession level with her phone quite a lot more.
” as you expect to have to turn the key the door swings open, “
1. Keycard, no key to turn.
2. Door is fire door. It will not swing open.
It's always a pleasure to hear from a reasonably minded fellow with no hidden anger issues. :)
"“She entered by error.”If we bought that excuse, every burglary suspect in the state would say. “I thought it was my house.”
And you would believe them."
Don't be ridiculous. We aren't talking about every burglary, we are talking about this case. In this case she entered the wrong apartment by mistake. She was not looking for this guy to kill him.
As I said, that doesn't mean shooting him was justified. But it does affect what offense she committed.
Exactly. How did she not notice she’d climbed the stairs to another floor? How did she not notice she didn’t have to walk around a big floral display on her floor but not his. How did she not notice his bright red welcome mat? That red mat glowed in the other police body cams like a big red light and impossible to miss. She stood on the mat and somehow still didn’t notice it. A normal reaction would be to look at the apt. number when she was messing with the key or it was open? Why didn’t she call the manager and police if she was afraid someone was in “her” apartment. How did she not notice his apartment didn’t look like hers? She’s a cop, so why didn’t she get him in handcuffs before pulling the trigger?
But the biggie was why didn’t she perform CPR? I’m betting there’s more to this story than what’s she’s claiming.
“There was no criminal intent to kill that man.“
Amber said she pulled the trigger with the intent to kill.
She said that on the stand.
She did not have to take the stand.
She is responsible for her own incompetence.
She didn’t climb an extra set of stairs, she parked her car on the wrong level.
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