Posted on 09/14/2019 7:52:21 AM PDT by FtrPilot
Whenever a non-traditional diet becomes mainstream, there’s skepticism about its real impact on health — and the ketogenic diet is no exception.
After all, it isn’t every day that you hear about a diet that encourages you to eat tasty, fatty cuts of meat.
Since dietary fats have been unfairly demonized for the past few decades, some people are worried that keto may affect your internal organs.
Specifically, there’s controversy about the keto-kidney connection.
So is the low carb, high fat lifestyle bad for your kidneys?
Read on to see the two sides of the debate.
(Excerpt) Read more at perfectketo.com ...
Most steak restaurants are already "Keto-Friendly".
My favorites are Bones in Atlanta and Berns Steakhouse in Tampa.
I have been on “Carnivore” for over 13 months now.
Steak, Cream, Coffee, Salt, a little Pepper ..... ONLY!
Feel great. Weight steady after losing 40+ lb.
Blood work normal! More Energy. Acid Reflux ... gone!
Etc, etc, etc ....
Just do a web search on Jordan Peterson + diet or carnivore and give a look. (you know Jordan Peterson?)
No more than the local bakery who makes your muffins is “Big Carb...”
LOW CARB / KETO PING!!!
Thanks Ftr!
[p.s., anyone wanting to join, or leave, my Low-Carb ping list, just let me know, privately or publicly]
Outstanding website...thank you!
Please add my name to your list.
An explosion of starchy junk food.
Enormous size portions: many restaurant meals are 1500-2200 calories at one sitting.
Large portions of HCFS-ridden soft drinks.
Stationary desk jobs.
You are welcome!
I hope you find the website as helpful as I have.
Every recipe I’ve tried, so far, has been great.
I started off looking for recipes on Pinterest or just searching (Bing).
It was hit or miss, with Bing, etc. (Although, the 90 second Keto bread recipe, at the beginning, was a life saver. :)
Thanks.
And, thanks for posting this thread (and your mea culpa).
https://www.reddit.com/r/keto/
Try this also...ask your questions OR on the right hand side, sub forums where you can drill down. Have a question on weight lifting, acid reflux, pancakes whatever, someone can help you.
I know that the Mediterranean diet worked for my wife and I. We both lost 20 lbs and have manage to keep it off for about 10 years now. It’s as much a lifestyle change as anything. Changing what one eats and sticking with it from now on is what makes the difference. You’re correct. It’s more about what you are avoiding.
“Ketoacidosis and ketosis are different things.”
Ketoacidosis is a potential complication of type 1 diabetes, and those that are insulin resistant, and it can occur if a person does not administer enough insulin at the right times. Not eating enough food can also trigger ketoacidosis.
Although inducing ketosis is generally safe as used in the keto diets, it can lead to nutritional imbalances in some people or result in them not getting enough calories thus malnutrition that increases the step toward ketoacidosis.
“...and not something that makes the diet dangerous...”
Ketosis and ketoacidosis both cause ketone levels in the body to rise. Nutritional ketosis is the aim of the ketogenic diet, and it is generally safe, whereas ketoacidosis is a potentially dangerous. The body is not the same for everyone or everyday for the one. It depends on how many times you want to flip the coin.
“....might be avoided by taking in more salt.”
Salt tablets are an unacceptable choice for electrolyte replenishment for two reasons:
They provide only two of the electrolytes your body requires - sodium and chloride. And they can oversupply sodium, thereby overwhelming the body’s complex mechanism for regulating sodium.
“Here’s the problem with getting advice from dietitians. They were trained under a certain paradigm about what a healthy diet was, and they’ve practiced that in their careers.”
The field is changing all the time. And changes are the success of research.
An example is the use of salt to replace electrolytes. This was the practice years ago, but that’s outdated now also, by many people in the field.
Far too many athletes have suffered needlessly with swollen hands and feet from water retention due to ingestion of salt tablets or electrolyte products that were too high in sodium during prolonged exercise in the heat. The body has very effective mechanisms to regulate and recirculate sodium from body stores. Excess sodium consumption interferes with or neutralizes these complex mechanisms. Sweat generates large sodium losses, which is monitored closely through hormonal receptors throughout the body. However, rapid sodium replacement neutralizes the system, allowing water intake to dilute the sodium content. High-sodium electrolyte supplementation compromises the natural physiological control of serum electrolytes. Once the body detects an increase in sodium from exogenous sources (food, salt tablets, or products too high in sodium), the hormone aldosterone signals the kidneys to stop filtering and recirculating sodium. Instead, the kidneys will excrete sodium and another hormone, vasopressin, will redominate and cause fluid retention. While ingesting large amounts of sodium may temporarily resolve a sodium deficiency, doing so substantially increases the risk of a number of other problems, including increased fluid storage in the form of swelling (edema) in the extremities. Consequences also include elevated blood pressure and an increased rate of sodium excretion. All of these inhibit performance. If you’ve ever finished a workout or race with swollen hands, wrists, feet, or ankles, or if you have experienced puffiness under your eyes and around your cheeks, chances are your sodium/salt intake was too high. And who is the candidate for water retention problems using salt?
And I’m no saying you have no idea what you are talking about. But there are problems with many of the theories people have used over the years. But until there is a truly sound medical answer to some of the questions, they will be accidentally misused.
rwood
Dearest Mr. Rogers...
I would never suggest that someone with serious thyroid problems or diabetes radically change their diet without discussing it with their doctor. I did because I have a serious thyroid problems, but fortunately am not diabetic.
He told me that my thyroid replacement (levothyroxine) might have to be reduced as I lost weight, and sure enough - over 110 lbs off, he is having to reduce it gradually, along with the HBP meds.
Diabetics (type 2) need to reduce their insulin on the very first day they start on the low carb way of eating. Many, if not most, can get totally off the insulin and stay off, as long as they keep the carbs out of their diet.
Most people are totally unaware of how dangerous the vegetable and seed oils are to our overall health. Get the canola oil, soybean oil, corn oil, etc. out of your diet right away.
Use olive oil, coconut oil, avocado oil, butter, bacon grease, beef tallow, & chicken fat (whatever your preference) instead.
But first, stop with the bread, potatoes, rice, fruit, and below ground veggies. After you tell your doc that you want him to follow and monitor your progess/success with this way of eating.
Also - ignore the opinionated ignoramuses posting here who haven’t read any of the research, and are parroting the old food fads of the last 50 years. They are the equivalent of nutritional “flat earthers”, and I ignore them.
My cardiologist says that I have arrested my atherosclerosis (by ultrasound tests), and is telling me to keep it up!
Not all Doctors are keeping up to date with the research. I hate to suspect that they have a financial motive to keep us sick, but I am slowly coming around to believing that the income from the various processes and procedures they use to “monitor” our progressive disease are just too lucrative to give up.
If a major dietary change could eliminate all those procedures, how would the specialists and hospitals replace the lost income?
Just something to think about...
Search here for a Keto-Friendly Doctor in your area:
https://www.lowcarbusa.org/low-carb-providers/lchf-doctors/
The ADA admits it’s the diet that actually causes diabetes remission, but when they said that more than 15 years ago, they didn’t think it was sustainable.
Ketoacidosis is completely different from ketosis. Ketosis doesn’t cause ketoacidosis. In fact, you can’t get ketoacidosis unless you have serious issues that ketosis has nothing to do with.
Ketoacidosis is a concern with those with issues with alcoholism, some diabetics, and thyroid conditions. Ketosis does not cause ketoacidosis. In fact, those in full ketosis are experiencing 5-20 mg/dl of ketone levels, while ketoacidosis exceeds 200mg/dl ketone levels.
In other words, ketosis can’t get you to ketoacidosis. You go into ketoacidosis because of other issues from other situations.
More posted in links within these posts from another thread:
https://freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3775861/posts?page=194#194
https://freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3775861/posts?page=195#195
What a helpful link! Please post it every time we get a low carb thread.
My doc “signals” that he is trapped in the big health care provider network, and has to practice the way he is told by the bean counters. We have an understanding.
Docs can no longer practice medicine the way they used to, unfortunately.
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