1) I call Uber and Lyft and have him tossed out. Saying anti gay things this will be studious and anonymous. He won't be employed 20 minutes after the call. Result: I've taken a job from a man. I've made a crazy person now desperate and angry.
2) I call the police. This NEVER works out. People call the police on shooters all the time. Nothing happens. Instead, as what happens with me every single time, I GET INVESTIGATED. They go up and down me instead of the actual reported crime.
3) I go to the airport security. Things WILL get done. Without incarceration this guy will be back. He will lose his job. He will be in a bad place.
With these three options I've actually accelerated the possible outcome.
Or I approach himself. I can be nice and help him out. People with mental illness need friends, not enemies. I'm not a shrink and I have no time to take on a project human being. And he also simply irritates me. I could scare him away (Believe you me, I could do that) but then I WOULD BE the crazy one at the uber workplace, chasing people out and being stupid.
So what do you all think ? Do you all see the problem with red-flag laws?
There is only one solution to any of this. And it's a solution we have been given as a god-given right. We can carry a weapon to defend ourselves.
THAT is the solution. No red flag laws. No further legislation. Just let people have guns as nature and god intended.
As a human being, you have a right to defend yourself in any way you see fit. And if we all just accepted that then the numbers would be defensive: Imagine considering violence in a place (Any place) where people simply could be armed. Quite the deterrent.
So two purposes to this post - First, my rant. Second I am actually interested to see what FReepers would do in this situation.
Understandable post. How do we help the mentally ill Democrats who want all conservatives killed and/or openly call for harming them? Nothing is done about that either. Just asking....
I would check w/the airport security about loitering laws in your lot.
Barring that, sounds like a bum. Ignore him or explicitly say you don’t want to talk, though that will likely get an angry response.
Could simply be his method for getting people to leave and move him closer on the queue. Hard to make any determination when we only have your description of this person. That is not a slight on you, just that we all have different opinions of people based upon our preferences. Sounds like I would share your sentiments, but I really have no point fro which to reference from.
Videotape the next Incident, send it to his superiors and give him $200 and a One Way Bus Ticket to Los Angeles or San Francisco where his kind is appreciated, and being homeless is fashionable with a nice climate.
My first knee-jerk reaction is to tell you that the most dangerous thing about this guy is his mouth. Most mass murderers don’t run their mouth like this. You might tell him that it’s bad for business to speak like this, as someone might hear him. Tell him that a complaint to the airport management could lose that spot for all of you.
I have a different real life story about how red flag laws can be abused, but I’ll save it for another day.
I’d consider calling (or writing) the police and giving an anonymous report. Tell them you’re concerned about your own safety if you give your name, and suggest they post an undercover cop at the airport to get in the same queue as he, get friendly with them and let them find out and figure it out for themselves.
Then stay away from him.
Loudmouth jerk...disengage and ignore. Free country...people are free to be jerks.
How about this.
Your ex accidentally sends a text to you rather than her new boyfriend of over a year because she lost her phone and they restored her contacts from an old back up.
Your current girlfriend sees it goes bat shit and red flags your guns,not because she is scared but it is a new arrow in her quiver to hurt you at that moment.
She didn’t mean to but now $5,000.00 of your legally owned property is now in police impound while you find money to pay a court ordered psycho analyst to get you a release document.
“This” will go badly.
Great analysis on your options and fallout. I’d probably talk with him once or twice and proceed from there. I agree, human projects are time intensive. But if you had a better knowledge about the nature of his behavior, you could find some kind of resolution. If this, indeed, is your problem.
I do endorse your conclusion.
The right to defend yourself is really the only solution for ‘random crazy’.
Just hope that the ‘random crazy’ isn’t in the form of a car that hops the curb and barrels down the sidewalk.
Or something over which you have no real control...(bomb in luggage of plane, wackjob biologist releases pandemic...)
People can agree to disagree. Do you think he will actually kill half of the people at the airport? If not, it’s just like saying “all 0bama supporters ought to be shot.”
It means nothing outside of sentiment.
Stay safe.
How could you allow this man’s rants to go unanswered even one time...
I’ve never once allowed anyone to be that rude
My wife's brother committed suicide via carbon monoxide in a garage.
About 10 years later, my wife's father after his third heart attack, complained about the pain and how tired he was of living. One night when we were visiting, he said that if things got to bad, he would take his revolver and end it all. We talked about what he said and he was serious. We talked about how he was loved and what a mess he would leave behind. We were very concerned.
It would have been nice to be able to take someone who is serious about suicide to a place where they can get mental health counseling. Unfortunately, the laws in this state (at that time) did not easily allow for that, nor did they allow getting a legal order to remove firearms. Things have changed, but I remember vividly the concerns we had than nigh.
Before we left we did an intervention, we took his revolver and put it in my gun safe when we got home. In many respects what I did was theft. I was OK with what I did and would have done it again, even though it was technically illegal. It took a long time for my wife to get over the suicide of her brother, loosing a father to suicide would have been horrific for her and her siblings.
I do believe we do need some Red Flag laws (with strong checks and balances) and some real changes in our mental health laws.
Yes, I do understand that Red Flag and involuntary commitment laws challenge some our our bill of rights (over and above the 2nd amendment). Remember a major source of gun deaths is suicide. I am very pro 2nd amendment, and almost all this gun control rhetoric by the media and politicians is just nonsense.
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FYI in Australia we have no right to firearms, need licenses, gun safes bolted to the floor and wall, ammo stored in seperate compartments, regular check-ups by state agencies etc and “red flag laws” have always been a thing here.
A colleague of mine had his firearms confiscated by the state after attending a rally against immigration policy. He took the state to court and after several months won his case and was able to recover his firearms, only to have the state then cancel his firearms license on a separate technicality, related to his “unsuitable character”.
Another colleague who was a regular attendee at political rallies has had his property raided by police at least three times in the past eighteen months, police claim to be “searching for illegal firearms”. They never find any and have no reason to believe they will, officers carrying out the raids have verbally apologised to him after each search, informing him that they’re just following orders.
Another man I know was gun pointed inside his own home by police after getting involved in a brief fist-fight with Antifa, after trying to attend the Milo event in Melbourne’s North. His wife and children watched their father cuffed at gun point inside his own house, before being taken to the police station to be questioned, then charged with “affray” –But the charge was later dropped.
This is what “red-flag laws” will get you in America. Regardless of the noble excuses the state and its pawns will make, this is how these laws are actually used in practice.
https://gab.com/RealBlairCottrell/posts/102579826698761037
Sounds like the guy needs a good honest talking to. He had the wherewithal to back down over the gay woman comment so he can police his own thoughts. He is trying to find out where he fits in and needs to be told where to draw the line. Sounds like two many drivers there are letting him get away with it and not pulling him up. Do a man a favour before you go dropping him in it. At least you can say you tried
Hard to say from your description but he really doesn’t sound TOO crazy.
If you are a man and people consider you quite capable of overpowering someone else, how about out-crazying him?
The street crazy can be very prudent about who they mess with. If he thinks you have a flashpoint temper, maybe he’ll avoid you.
Just do it privately so no one else is made anxious.
See something say something sounds very noble and altruistic. But as you see it can be very difficult to put into practice. I would avoid this guy. Stay as far away from him as possible.
It is my understanding that it is a felony to even make jokes in an airport about killing someone. If you do not report this, it is a potential misprision of a felony. Further, the fact that you posted this information in a public forum and if this guy does something, you are really going to be in trouble because you knew there is a potential threat and you did not bring it to the authorities, and you have no escape from your liability. Report it to the authority of your choice and do it now. Let me ask you this, would you want your daughter in a car with this creep?
It is my understanding that it is a felony to even make jokes in an airport about killing someone. If you do not report this, it is a potential misprision of a felony. Further, the fact that you posted this information in a public forum and if this guy does something, you are really going to be in trouble because you knew there is a potential threat and you did not bring it to the authorities, and you have no escape from your liability. Report it to the authority of your choice and do it now. Let me ask you this, would you want your daughter in a car with this creep?