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Did the Ancient Egyptians sail as far as the Black Sea? Adventurers will use a boat [tr]
UK Daily Mail ^ | July 31, 2019 | Ian Randall

Posted on 07/31/2019 5:59:19 AM PDT by C19fan

A boat made of reeds will be put to the test by a team of intrepid adventurers when they embark on the 800 mile journey from the Black Sea to Crete in August.

The voyage aboard the vessel — the 'Abora IV' — is hoped will prove that the ancient Egyptians could have made similar trips in reed boats thousands of years ago.

The 46 feet-long (14 metre) boat will be crewed by a team of two dozen researchers and volunteers, from eight different countries.

Setting out from the Bulgarian port of Varna, on the Black Sea, the voyagers will forge their way through the Bosphorus, across the Aegean Sea and on to Crete.

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


TOPICS: History
KEYWORDS: aboraiv; ancient; ancientnavigation; blacksea; egypt; godsgravesglyphs; mediterranean; navigation
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Pretty well known the Mediterranean Bronze powers had extensive contacts with each other.
1 posted on 07/31/2019 5:59:19 AM PDT by C19fan
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To: C19fan

Both the Phoenicians and the Greeks had settlements in Crimea


2 posted on 07/31/2019 6:03:19 AM PDT by Jimmy Valentine (DemocRATS - when they speak, they lie; when they are silent, they are stealing the American Dream)
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To: C19fan

Isn’t that where Jason and the Argonauts found the golden fleece?


3 posted on 07/31/2019 6:04:26 AM PDT by yarddog
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To: Jimmy Valentine

Avaris traded with the minoans.


4 posted on 07/31/2019 6:06:42 AM PDT by D Rider
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To: yarddog

No, I think that was Colchis, or modern-day Georgia.


5 posted on 07/31/2019 6:08:04 AM PDT by ajf_in_texas
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To: C19fan

IIRC from Nat Geo there is on display a Khufu Era boat that looks to me like it could very likely sail just about anywhere in the world with a good crew.


6 posted on 07/31/2019 6:09:59 AM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: yarddog

Yes Colchis - present day Georgia. (No! Not the one with the Bulldogs, Falcons, Braves or CNN HQ!)


7 posted on 07/31/2019 6:10:09 AM PDT by Reily
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If they had boats (and they did) they would trade with other civilizations. This is why Troy became an important city, because they controlled the Hellespont. And later, Byzantium/Constantinople/Istanbul.

I have no problem believing that the Egyptians went that far.


8 posted on 07/31/2019 6:16:55 AM PDT by Conan the Librarian (The Best in Life is to crush my enemies, see them driven before me, and the Dewey Decimal System)
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I suppose the question is whether the Egyptians took their river craft out into the Mediterranean, or shifted to stouter ships for ocean use. I never really thought about it. River craft are usually built to navigate shallows and are not seaworthy. On bigger rivers with deep channels, however, ships can swing both ways.

Related note: we just toured LST 325 in Evansville, Indiana. Many of the WWII LST's were built in inland shipyards, including Evansville, which produced over 100 during the war. With no load and empty ballast tanks, LST's drew less than 10 feet of water, so you could get them up and down the Ohio, Mississippi and some other major rivers. Of course, being flat-bottomed (basically ocean going barges), they pitched something awful at sea. Our guide said that in rough weather on an Atlantic crossing, an LST would pitch 30 degrees to port and starboard every ten seconds.

So: I don't know if I'd want to take an Egyptian Nile boat out to sea. That said, the Viking longships were fairly seaworthy and still shallow draft enough to get far up the rivers, which was a big part of the Viking secret sauce during the Dark Ages.

9 posted on 07/31/2019 6:20:27 AM PDT by sphinx
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The Egyptians sailed the Red Sea.
And they didn’t do it in boats made of reeds, either. They built pretty sophisticated ships.


10 posted on 07/31/2019 6:41:54 AM PDT by Little Ray (Freedom Before Security!)
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To: C19fan

Cue up “King Tut.”


11 posted on 07/31/2019 6:42:08 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (Baseball players, gangsters and musicians are remembered. But journalists are forgotten.)
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To: C19fan

Didn’t the Kontiki expedition prove this +50 years ago??


12 posted on 07/31/2019 6:45:01 AM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: C19fan

Check the floor of the Black Sea ,if they sailed it some of them will be sitting on the Sea’s floor


13 posted on 07/31/2019 6:51:32 AM PDT by butlerweave
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What that crew is going to attempt is exactly bassackwards of what the headline says: “Sail TO the Black Sea FROM the ME”. This crew will start out FROM the Black Sea. Sine my name is Thomas, I wonder whether any of it is true?


14 posted on 07/31/2019 7:08:04 AM PDT by Tucker39 ("It is impossible to rightly govern a nation without God and the Bible." George Washington)
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To: C19fan

Back in my youth, I read the books of Thor Heyerdahl, Kon Tiki, Aku-Aku, the RA Expeditions.

The Egyptians might have done it. The RA almost made it from the West coast of Africa to the Americas. Again, ALMOST.


15 posted on 07/31/2019 7:58:46 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: SunkenCiv

*ping*


16 posted on 07/31/2019 11:09:21 AM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (Who will think of the gerbils ? Just say no to Buttgiggity !)
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At that time, it was possible to reach the Oxus river deep in Asia by water.

Alexander took armies as far as India by the continuous water route from the Medeterranian.

Here is youtube part 6 . Ihave it all on file and watched it before on youtube It is extremely interesting

The CD set
alexander’s lost world series source of civilization documentary hd


17 posted on 07/31/2019 11:29:11 AM PDT by bert ( (KE. NP. N.C. +12)There were Democrat espionage operations on Republican candidates)
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To: Little Ray

That was my thought also. Pretty early in their timeline too. This sounds like another fishing expedition for funding that will prove nothing based on poor research from the start.


18 posted on 07/31/2019 2:54:21 PM PDT by Openurmind
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To: fieldmarshaldj; StayAt HomeMother; Ernest_at_the_Beach; 1ofmanyfree; 21twelve; 24Karet; ...
Thanks fieldmarshaldj. I have to remember to re-ping this for the weekly Digest list.

19 posted on 08/01/2019 11:22:22 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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http://www.google.com/search?q=sailing+ancient+egyptian+vessel+on+the+Red+Sea


20 posted on 08/01/2019 11:24:02 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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