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Urgent consultations in Washington, Moscow on reported US-Russian submarines in firefight
Debka ^ | 7/2/19 | Diane Shalem

Posted on 07/02/2019 3:54:01 PM PDT by LibWhacker

Jul 2, 2019 @ 22:24 Diane Shalem First reports reaching DEBKAfile’s military sources say that a US submarine intercepted a Russian nuclear sub in American waters opposite Alaska. The Russian sub escorting the nuclear submarine responded with a Balkan 2000 torpedo and scuttled the US vessel. Urgent consultations in both the White House and the Kremlin were taking place on Tuesday night. US Vice President Mike Pence called off an appearance in New Hampshire after being recalled to Washington for a conference called by President Donald Trump without explanation.

Russian President Vladimir Putin cancelled an engagement and headed for the Kremlin to confer with Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu and military chiefs, after learning that 14 submariners died in a fire that broke out on a nuclear-powered “experimental submarine in Russian waters.” This account carried in Russian media varies in most respects from the first reports reaching this site and may refer to a separate incident. They report between 14 and 17 members of an AS-12 nuclear powered submarine died of poisonous fumes caused by a fire aboard the vessel. The submarine was described as experimental and unarmed but often used in spy missions. It is unclear how many of the 25 crew survived. Local media suggest four or five are receiving treatment in Severomorsk’s military hospital for poisoning and concussion injuries. Another news account said the majority of the officers died in or on their way to hospital. These reports do not cite the cause of the fire.


TOPICS: Conspiracy
KEYWORDS: debka; debkatatonia; dianeshalem; dumbka; incident; russia; sistermaritatroll; submarines
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To: CondoleezzaProtege

agreed

2008 (and 2012) were a couple of the worst years for America in history


41 posted on 07/02/2019 5:08:01 PM PDT by faithhopecharity ( “Politicians are not born; they are excreted.” Marcus Tullius Cicero (106 to 43 BCE))
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To: JoeFromSidney

Just happened only once. A Brit sub torpedoed a German sub underwater near the end of the war.

All other sub kills have been on the surface. No other underwater sub to sub underwater kills are known.


42 posted on 07/02/2019 5:09:56 PM PDT by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up. ....)
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To: CondoleezzaProtege

The only reason I voted for the GOP ticket was that Palin was the VP candidate. Otherwise I would have stayed home. McCain has always disgusted me.


43 posted on 07/02/2019 5:11:23 PM PDT by kaehurowing
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To: LibWhacker

44 posted on 07/02/2019 5:12:18 PM PDT by Daffynition (*I'm living the dream.* & :))
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To: kaehurowing; faithhopecharity

Tony Lee, Breitbart in 2014:

During the 2008 presidential campaign, Republican vice presidential nominee Sarah Palin warned that if Senator Barack Obama were elected president, his “indecision” and “moral equivalence” may encourage Russia’s Vladimir Putin to invade Ukraine.

Palin said then:

After the Russian Army invaded the nation of Georgia, Senator Obama’s reaction was one of indecision and moral equivalence, the kind of response that would only encourage Russia’s Putin to invade Ukraine next.

For those comments, she was mocked by the high-brow Foreign Policy magazine and its editor Blake Hounshell, who now is one of the editors of Politico magazine.

In light of recent events in Ukraine and concerns that Russia is getting its troops ready to cross the border into the neighboring nation, nobody seems to be laughing at or dismissing those comments now.

Hounshell wrote then that Palin’s comments were “strange” and “this is an extremely far-fetched scenario.”

“And given how Russia has been able to unsettle Ukraine’s pro-Western government without firing a shot, I don’t see why violence would be necessary to bring Kiev to heel,” Hounshell dismissively wrote.

Palin made her remarks on the stump after Obama’s running mate Joe Biden warned Obama supporters to “gird your loins” if Obama is elected because international leaders may test or try to take advantage of him.

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10201573917093799&id=24718773587&refid=52&__tn__=-R


45 posted on 07/02/2019 5:17:46 PM PDT by CondoleezzaProtege
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To: LibWhacker

I’m surprised this thread is allowed to stay. DEBKA is the least reliable source for anything.


46 posted on 07/02/2019 5:21:37 PM PDT by McGruff
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To: LibWhacker

This is as fake as can be. Why is Debka junk not banned from this forum?


47 posted on 07/02/2019 5:23:24 PM PDT by Trumpisourlastchance
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To: Innovative

Truthout feeds garbage to the press, too.

The statement on Pence said the change in flight plans had nothing to do with national security.


48 posted on 07/02/2019 5:24:50 PM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge.)
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To: HChampagne

Primary language is Hebrew.


49 posted on 07/02/2019 5:25:05 PM PDT by Trumpisourlastchance
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To: mylife

Seen this yet?


50 posted on 07/02/2019 5:27:06 PM PDT by Carriage Hill (A society grows great when old men plant trees, in whose shade they know they will never sit.)
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To: CondoleezzaProtege; onyx; KC_Lion
Great reminder post.

I miss dear Sarah 😩

51 posted on 07/02/2019 5:30:09 PM PDT by Jane Long (Praise God, from whom ALL blessings flow.)
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To: LibWhacker

Putin sank a US sub in the library with a candlestick.


52 posted on 07/02/2019 5:31:24 PM PDT by Rashputin (Jesus Christ doesn't evacuate His troops, He leads them to victory !!)
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To: Trumpisourlastchance

Debra is a lot more accurate than most news sources, I was in position to personally verify a few of their stories that were “debunked” here in freeper and the western news sources. Then the odious process of Debka mocking goes on.

But I saw what they reported first hand.

So from my experience, I listen carefully. 25% of what they report that is “debunked” and proven to be BS is true.


53 posted on 07/02/2019 5:41:18 PM PDT by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: gaijin; whacker
The Debka article I really liked was the
"nuclear LAND MINES" one from about 10 years back.

That one was a doozy.

Do you not believe that something like that could exist ?
shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach
54 posted on 07/02/2019 5:42:26 PM PDT by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your teaching is my delight.)
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To: Rashputin

Ha. I was thinking about Clue for another scenario just last night. And it involved the candlestick in the kitchen.


55 posted on 07/02/2019 5:45:16 PM PDT by Viking2002 (Free James Woods!!!)
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To: LibWhacker

Putin knows that he can play Trump. After his unwillingness to follow through on Iran,Trump has lust all credibility, thus his photo-op in N. Korea.

Putin want’s a Democrat president.


56 posted on 07/02/2019 5:49:44 PM PDT by Sister Marita Charles
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To: Sister Marita Charles

Lol


57 posted on 07/02/2019 5:51:12 PM PDT by petitfour (APPEAL TO HEAVEN)
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To: carriage_hill

Yeah I saw it.


58 posted on 07/02/2019 5:53:37 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: Sister Marita Charles
Putin knows that he can play Trump.

Hillary?

59 posted on 07/02/2019 5:53:43 PM PDT by bankwalker (Immigration without assimilation is an invasion.)
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To: carriage_hill

Yeah I saw it.

Remember this is DEBKA, but Ivan had a bad day.


60 posted on 07/02/2019 5:56:07 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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