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Urgent consultations in Washington, Moscow on reported US-Russian submarines in firefight
Debka ^ | 7/2/19 | Diane Shalem

Posted on 07/02/2019 3:54:01 PM PDT by LibWhacker

Jul 2, 2019 @ 22:24 Diane Shalem First reports reaching DEBKAfile’s military sources say that a US submarine intercepted a Russian nuclear sub in American waters opposite Alaska. The Russian sub escorting the nuclear submarine responded with a Balkan 2000 torpedo and scuttled the US vessel. Urgent consultations in both the White House and the Kremlin were taking place on Tuesday night. US Vice President Mike Pence called off an appearance in New Hampshire after being recalled to Washington for a conference called by President Donald Trump without explanation.

Russian President Vladimir Putin cancelled an engagement and headed for the Kremlin to confer with Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu and military chiefs, after learning that 14 submariners died in a fire that broke out on a nuclear-powered “experimental submarine in Russian waters.” This account carried in Russian media varies in most respects from the first reports reaching this site and may refer to a separate incident. They report between 14 and 17 members of an AS-12 nuclear powered submarine died of poisonous fumes caused by a fire aboard the vessel. The submarine was described as experimental and unarmed but often used in spy missions. It is unclear how many of the 25 crew survived. Local media suggest four or five are receiving treatment in Severomorsk’s military hospital for poisoning and concussion injuries. Another news account said the majority of the officers died in or on their way to hospital. These reports do not cite the cause of the fire.


TOPICS: Conspiracy
KEYWORDS: debka; debkatatonia; dianeshalem; dumbka; incident; russia; sistermaritatroll; submarines
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I know... debka. I should know better. But still...
1 posted on 07/02/2019 3:54:01 PM PDT by LibWhacker
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To: LibWhacker

At this point, anything is possible.

Could be another cover story. Who knows?

5.56mm


2 posted on 07/02/2019 3:58:03 PM PDT by M Kehoe (DRAIN THE SWAMP! BUILD THE WALL!)
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To: LibWhacker

I immediately heard this song playing in my head: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n3atTP6hqlg


3 posted on 07/02/2019 3:59:14 PM PDT by Kriggerel ("All great truths are hard and bitter, but lies... are sweeter than wild honey" (Ragnar Redbeard))
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To: LibWhacker

Russians blew up their own sub again sounds more like it.


4 posted on 07/02/2019 4:01:30 PM PDT by dila813 (Voting for Trump to Punish Trumpets!me t)
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To: LibWhacker

Scuttled the US vessel? Is this a translation error?


5 posted on 07/02/2019 4:03:24 PM PDT by momincombatboots (Do you know anyone who isnÂ’t a socialist after 65? Freedom exchanged for cash and control.)
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To: LibWhacker

Doesn’t sound true to me, having known US people in the anti-submarine world. I can’t imagine that our folks would do that, and I think - since the EU has been alerted - that this is actually about something Iran is doing or has done.


6 posted on 07/02/2019 4:04:11 PM PDT by livius
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WOW...

Hard to find facts on this event.


7 posted on 07/02/2019 4:07:36 PM PDT by tired&retired (Blessings)
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To: LibWhacker

Maybe why Pence suddenly returned to the White House this morning......


8 posted on 07/02/2019 4:08:23 PM PDT by Intolerant in NJ
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To: momincombatboots

I know. Made no sense to me either.


9 posted on 07/02/2019 4:08:57 PM PDT by LibWhacker
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To: LibWhacker

Andrei... you’ve lost another submarine?


10 posted on 07/02/2019 4:09:03 PM PDT by Cold War Veteran - Submarines
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To: momincombatboots

Along the same lines... Do submarines get in firefights? What, with one megaton nukes?


11 posted on 07/02/2019 4:10:53 PM PDT by LibWhacker
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To: LibWhacker

In before the obligatory Fred Thompson pic?


12 posted on 07/02/2019 4:11:25 PM PDT by Kommodor (Terrorist, Journalist or Democrat? I can't tell the difference.)
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To: LibWhacker

Something could be up:

Pence -> “meeting in DC”. Who knows where he is now...

Putin - Meets with defense minister

Russian sub fire / gold was dropping and pops up.


13 posted on 07/02/2019 4:12:24 PM PDT by Darteaus94025 (Can't have a Liberal without a Lie)
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What a piece of crap for an article. Was the US ship sank by the Russians or was the Russian sub ‘scuttled’. Scuttled is vastly different from ‘sank’. Why happened to the officers and crew of the Russian sub where so many wee killed/died, especially on an unmanned submarine. unmanned means no one was on board. Are we at war with Russia? Were they in our territorial waters?

My third grade grandson could have written this article with more information. Not fake news but really stupid.


14 posted on 07/02/2019 4:12:26 PM PDT by dirtymac (Now is the time for all good men to come to the aid of their country! Now)
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To: tired&retired

Here is a link to the o ly non Debka story on this

https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/world/report-american-submarine-torpedoed-and-sunk-off-alaska-coast


15 posted on 07/02/2019 4:13:54 PM PDT by tired&retired (Blessings)
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To: momincombatboots

Scuttled the US vessel? Is this a translation error?
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Yes. “Scuttled the” likely should be “Scuttled by the”.


16 posted on 07/02/2019 4:17:46 PM PDT by House Atreides (Boycott the NFL 100% — PERMANENTLY)
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To: LibWhacker

The writing indicates English is a third or fourth language.


17 posted on 07/02/2019 4:21:23 PM PDT by HChampagne (Cruz supporter but I will support and vote for Trump.)
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To: LibWhacker

someone call Sarah Palin, she undoubtably watched it all from her front porch
and she will certainly give us the straight story


18 posted on 07/02/2019 4:23:53 PM PDT by faithhopecharity ( “Politicians are not born; they are excreted.” Marcus Tullius Cicero (106 to 43 BCE))
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To: faithhopecharity

LOL!


19 posted on 07/02/2019 4:28:43 PM PDT by LibWhacker
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To: faithhopecharity

You betcha!


20 posted on 07/02/2019 4:30:45 PM PDT by kaehurowing
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