Navy Pilots are Seeing UFOs. Are They from Russia, China, or Somewhere Beyond?

The National Interest ^ | Task and Purpose

[RoosterRedux]

Let's talk about UFOs.

To be clear, your friend and humble narrator does not wear a tinfoil hat, nor does this reporter believe the U.S. government is competent enough to keep proof of alien life secret from the American public.

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Yet a number of credible media outlets have reported that Navy pilots are increasingly reporting sightings of unidentified aircraft, and the service is taking them seriously for a change. Politico's Bryan Bender reported in April that the Navy was working on new guidelines for reporting such aircraft in the wake of increased sightings in military ranges and airspace.

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[C]ould these strange aircraft actually be long-range Russian or Chinese unmanned surveillance aircraft?

Probably not, according to the Air Force.

"While there is a proliferation of UAV [unmanned aerial vehicle] technology across the globe, we are not concerned that China or Russia have developed a long-range capability about which we are not aware," said Air Force spokesman Maj. Bryan Lewis.

Any drone that could fly from Russia or China to the United States' East Coast would have to be at least as large as an MQ-9 Reaper and the data link used to fly the aircraft would be detectable, said retired Air Force Maj. Gen. James Poss, who served as the service's former assistant deputy chief of staff for intelligence, surveillance, and reconnaissance.

[DoodleBob]

Yeah, sure. Let us see some proof.

So, let me get this straight...

I posit, on a thread about UFOs (which haven't been proven to exist or not exist), that aliens are actually demons.

...and you ask for proof?

[Jamestown1630]

There’s much more proof, if anecdotal, that UFOs ‘exist’ than that demons exist.

[MHGinTN]

Your pontificating in light of your ignorance is amusing. You have not caught up to ALL the evidence of radar captures and gun camera video and visual sightings by airline pilots and military people. There is even the testimony of a man who ran a theodolite for missile testing out of Vandenberg who taped a UFO coming into frame with a missile, circling it while it was doing 8000 mph and projecting a light beam into it then the missile tumbled out of trajectory. An FAA director for radar at a major airport near DC has recordings of radar tracking a major sized UFO and has shared it at the Washington Press Club. ... And there is eyewitness testimony in public record from Airforce Missile silo personnel of major incursions at Missile 'gardens' with shut down of several missiles in the array.

[justa-hairyape]

Sorry. Just one year catholic school. Have not read much beyond that, except my own research over the decades. But one could imagine that during that time the spirit was becomming human. Learning the lay of the land.

[Jamestown1630]

There seem to be mentions of childhood in some of the apocrypha.

[MHGinTN]

He was raised by a carpenter, with brothers and sisters, and was himself a carpenter. Before He began His ministry he was just another Jew under Roman occupation. The wedding in Cana was before He started His ministry and is the first recorded miracle.

[Jamestown1630]

I know the story. I’m still thinking that, as literature as well as being the life story of someone that people came to view as a god, something’s missing.

[jonrick46]

Maybe the pilots saw this:

[the_daug]

Maybe from the USA

[MHGinTN]

How much do you know of the childhood of Buddha or MOhamhead?

[MHGinTN]

But that is the point, The Bible does not give His human life story because it is such a short interlude of His Eternal Reality.

Here's a little something which might help to put the dimensional vagaries into perspective: http://www.porchmaunderings.blogspot.com Space, Time, Jesus: A Christian Cosmology

[Jamestown1630]

I’ve never studied them much. I’ve had some interest in Sufism, and older Greek and Egyptian stuff; but other than that I’ve stayed mainly with Christianity.

And there is mention of the childhood of Jesus - but the sources were ‘thrown out’ when the-powers-that-were decided what to keep and what they didn’t think mattered.

[bitt]

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[Jamestown1630]

The idea of a short, unimportant interlude doesn’t convince me. It seems like the kind of ‘anodyne’ statement that people whip out to quell curiosity, questioning and analysis.

[jonrick46]

Actually science fiction belongs to the romance genre of literature. The first modern science fiction novel was written by Mary Shelly. Frankenstein was born out of an effort by other romantic poets, Lord Byron, Percy Bysshe Shelley (her future husband) and the physician John Polidori to outdo each other writing a ghost story on a gloomy night on Lake Geneva. Romantics believe that the transcendental nature of God is present in all of his creation.

[bagster]

How would aircraft prove to mankind that there is no God?

You ask too many questions, earthling.

[LucyT]

A couple of weeks ago, we went outside every night for six consecutive nights and watched the International Space Station in orbit as it silently passed over our house.

I wondered at the time if it could be mistaken for a UFO.

When ISS is orbiting my area, NASA notifies me by email of the exact time and latitude so I can identify this flying object with certainty.

[BlackbirdSST]

You believe Albert Einstein and the General Theory of Relativity.

One can believe Einstein and believe in the Theory of Relativity so long as one can define theory as something other than the final word. The science is NOT settled. If it's ever decided that the science is settled then scientist can all pack it in and learn to code.

[PIF]

Or you could chose to imagine that some ocean-based entity evolved a high civilization here on Earth a billion (pick any large number) years ago and has been here ever since. Since most of the surface of the Earth remains unexplored - even some of the dry portions - this remains a possibility. New species are being found every year.

No need for aliens or extra dimensional beings. No need to believe or disbelieve Einstein

Make things simple not complex

[RoosterRedux]

You are still stuck on this linear idea that alien lifeforms, if they exist, must be physical by our definition and must travel light years to get here.

That is like presuming they must walk on two legs, breathe air, and eat plant or animal matter for sustenance.

Despite whatever the chairman of a university department of physics might say, that is narrow-minded, uncreative, trapped-inside-the-box thinking.

Despite the fact that humans have invented the iphone, the jet airplane, and the electric car, we are by all objective standards still a primitive life form. We haven't even developed a cure for male pattern baldness or the common cold.;-)

For us to point to our current "facts" as a determinant for things we have yet to discover or encounter is like listen to Lord Kelvin lecture us on the impossibility of video conferencing.

In all due respect, you are thinking like an accountant.