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Nabokov's Lolita: the latest thing millennials have apparently ruined
The Guardian ^ | 3/8/2019 | Laura Waddell

Posted on 03/12/2019 2:15:18 PM PDT by Borges

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To: outofsalt

“Please tell me there’s not a Lolita app already?”

You probably don’t want to google that.


41 posted on 03/12/2019 3:23:10 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: miss marmelstein
I think John Mortimer, who most of us know as the author of Rumpole, fought for the publication of Lolita as well as Lady Chatterley’s Lover.

He worked on free speech cases, but I don't know if he was involved with Lolita.

If he was that could explain this in the article:

While promoting her film The Bookshop last year, actor Emily Mortimer also talked about the “sanctimony” of #MeToo, telling the Telegraph: “Lolita would have a hard time being published today.”

But The Bookshop is also about a bookseller who decides to sell Lolita.

42 posted on 03/12/2019 3:25:04 PM PDT by x
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To: Responsibility2nd

Ok, now I gotta go read it again. Never heard that interpretation.
ET:The Extraterrestrial as an analogy of the life of Christ— I get that.
But Humbert & Lolita as Russia & America?? Nope.


43 posted on 03/12/2019 3:26:40 PM PDT by mumblypeg (I've seen the future, brother. It is murder. --L. Cohen)
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To: Borges

I agree, although I thought Lolita was one of the creepiest books I ever read...I thought Humbert Humbert was a truly nauseating character, and I do remember that, not unsurprisingly, this book gave license to all the elderly lit teachers in the world to come onto their female students.

So while I think millennials may be a lnutty in some ways, this time I agree with them.


44 posted on 03/12/2019 3:26:43 PM PDT by livius
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To: miss marmelstein
The story is hilarious. But even as a woman, I can understand Mr. Mason’s eye-popping stare as he sees Lolita sunbathing in her heart-shaped shades.

Yup, she's about as cute as a human being can be.

Charlotte Haze: "What was it made you decide to stay?"

Humbert (looking at Lolita): "I think it was the cherry pie."

45 posted on 03/12/2019 3:26:57 PM PDT by Steely Tom ([Seth Rich] == [the Democrat's John Dean])
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To: pepsi_junkie

Already pretty much happened.... “Call Me by Your Name” won the Academy Award for Best Adapted Screenplay.


46 posted on 03/12/2019 3:29:13 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Gamecock

I preferred the musical version with Bette Middler


47 posted on 03/12/2019 3:32:41 PM PDT by Jeff Vader
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To: Lisbon1940
I read some Borges, too....

Borges is a character in a play currently at Lincoln Center starring John Laroquette--Nantucket Sleighride.

48 posted on 03/12/2019 3:39:49 PM PDT by Oratam
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To: Borges

I have never heard of this novel before. But I have to wonder if the Japanese Lolita culture, which has some following here, is related. Lolitas are women who dress like extremely frilly little girls. Kind of disturbing, IMO.


49 posted on 03/12/2019 3:42:57 PM PDT by exDemMom (Current visual of the hole the US continues to dig itself into: http://www.usdebtclock.org/)
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To: Borges

Lolita was trash when I went to school. Nothing has changed that

No I’m not a millienial


50 posted on 03/12/2019 3:45:53 PM PDT by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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To: Steely Tom

I’ve always liked this movie. I’ve even put up with Shelley Winters to enjoy it.


51 posted on 03/12/2019 3:52:24 PM PDT by miss marmelstein
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To: Borges

I loved Lolita. But I don’t expect it to even be in libraries any more. But Lolita is nothing compared to Gone with the Wind, which I just finished. That book had better hide itself. The SJW people will not like what they see in that book. Darky is one of the kinder terms.


52 posted on 03/12/2019 4:04:16 PM PDT by poinq
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To: miss marmelstein

My mom-a HS teacher-was really into art flicks, film noir stuff, etc and took me with her to those movies-that would probably have gotten her a visit from CPS today-we would leave my bro at home with dad
on the ranch, go to the nearest “art” film theater about 80 miles away in the city, go shopping, making a mami and daughter weekend of it- went to see Lolita on one of those weekends when I was Lolita’s age.

My mom pointed out to me how inappropriate and creepy Humbert’s obsession was while cautioning me to always be more observant and cautious than Lolita, using the movie for a lesson in knowing when an older male represented a potential hazard. I didn’t read the book until I was about 14-but I liked it better than the movie. The 2nd film version wasn’t as good-but Jeremy Irons was totally creepy...


53 posted on 03/12/2019 4:25:42 PM PDT by Texan5 ("You've got to saddle up your boys, you've got to draw a hard line"...)
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To: miss marmelstein

A hard thing to do-putting up with her-I wonder if Shelly Winters was really a whiny psycho or if she just managed to get cast as one in movies-I read that she had substance abuse and emotional problems in her “real” life...


54 posted on 03/12/2019 4:33:41 PM PDT by Texan5 ("You've got to saddle up your boys, you've got to draw a hard line"...)
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To: livius

He’s intended to be nauseating and not in any way admirable. Lit teachers would know that more than anyone.


55 posted on 03/12/2019 5:13:05 PM PDT by Borges
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To: Nifster

And I assume you haven’t read it.


56 posted on 03/12/2019 5:23:12 PM PDT by Borges
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To: exDemMom

It was written in the early 1950s and clearly satirizes the sexualisation of young girls.


57 posted on 03/12/2019 5:24:45 PM PDT by Borges
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To: Borges

Your assumption is incorrect


58 posted on 03/12/2019 5:53:33 PM PDT by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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To: Borges

They knew it, but they thought he was somehow “understandable.’ Which of course made us wonder what they had been thinking about all those years...


59 posted on 03/12/2019 5:55:28 PM PDT by livius
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To: Nifster

Ok so you misread it.


60 posted on 03/12/2019 5:56:47 PM PDT by Borges
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