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1 posted on 12/15/2018 4:10:34 AM PST by sparklite2
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If he was a born-again Christian when he died then he is in Heaven. If he never had accepted Christ as his personal Savior then, no, no Heaven. Suicide is not a factor.


2 posted on 12/15/2018 4:15:24 AM PST by MayflowerMadam (Great things never come from comfort zones.)
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He killed himself at a funeral?


3 posted on 12/15/2018 4:15:36 AM PST by real saxophonist (One side has guns and training. Other side's primary concern is 'gender identity'. Who's gonna win?)
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The priest was correct but didn’t have to say it.


4 posted on 12/15/2018 4:17:40 AM PST by LumberJack53213
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Family wanted a canonization and when they didn’t get it, they run to the press. Killing yourself is still a grave sin in the Church.


6 posted on 12/15/2018 4:20:58 AM PST by Bayard
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Whose funeral was he at when he killed himself?


7 posted on 12/15/2018 4:26:02 AM PST by Safetgiver (Islam makes barbarism look genteel.)
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Iv got no problem with clocking the Padre, same as anyone else enjoying a sense of moral superiority in their ignorance. Especially at my families expense.


8 posted on 12/15/2018 4:30:41 AM PST by Delta 21
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Reminds me of a story my Rabbi once told me. He was attending a funeral for a young child. The child’s mother had managed to keep it together most of the way through until the Minister said the child was in a better place. The mother completely lost it and started shrieking “A better place than with me? A better place than with me?”. He told me it was one of the most disturbing experiences of his career.


10 posted on 12/15/2018 4:33:26 AM PST by jalisco555 ("In a Time of Universal Deceit Telling the Truth Is a Revolutionary Act" - George Orwell)
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The Catechism accepts that suicide is not necessarily a mortal sin, and that there may be extenuating curcumstances, such as mental illness that may lead to it.


11 posted on 12/15/2018 4:37:38 AM PST by Fido969 (In!)
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Very poorly written headline.


18 posted on 12/15/2018 5:01:17 AM PST by NotSoFreeStater (If you choose not to decide you still have made a choice)
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Did the Priest’s criticism at the funeral cause the teen to kill himself?
23 posted on 12/15/2018 5:09:50 AM PST by liberalh8ter (The only difference between flash mob 'urban yutes' and U.S. politicians is the hoodies.)
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What about criticizing priests for corruption and false doctrine? I have noticed that is a far worse crime....


25 posted on 12/15/2018 5:12:06 AM PST by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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There is only one sin that can separate us from God and send a person to hell. The only unforgivable sin is refusing to accept Christ as Lord and Savior. Anyone who turns to Jesus for forgiveness is made righteous by his blood (Romans 5:9) which covers our sin — past, present, and future.


28 posted on 12/15/2018 5:14:08 AM PST by Ikeon (Sadly, the sheep just voted a wolf as the head chef in their own house. whats for dinner? mutton)
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In the past, suicides could not get a Catholic funeral.

From a medical standpoint, showing sympathy for a suicide actually inspires copycat suicides, so doctors groups used to discourage even sympathetic news coverage.

30 posted on 12/15/2018 5:22:39 AM PST by LadyDoc (Liberals only love politically correct poor people)
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I suspect the “ criticism” was pretty mild. You're not allowed to say anything bad about the deceased, these days.

It is the Priest's job to point out that suicide is a grievous sin. This may be upsetting to some of the Celebrate Life folks, but it is true, nonetheless.

42 posted on 12/15/2018 6:12:03 AM PST by Haiku Guy (ELIMINATE PERVERSE INCENTIVES)
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People commit suicide to escape.

I think the punishment for suicide is Groundhog Day, where you are condemned to living your life over and over again for eternity.


82 posted on 12/15/2018 7:52:19 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (Democracy dies when Democrats refuse to accept the result of a democratic election they didn't win.)
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Here is some more to the story besides the singular limited scope the post chose to give it.

https://www.toledoblade.com/sports/high-school/2018/12/10/bedford-family-asks-football-coach-jeff-wood-to-leave-sons-funeral/stories/20181210148

https://usatodayhss.com/2018/michigan-coach-fired-for-showing-up-at-former-players-funeral

https://www.wxyz.com/news/teens-family-says-priest-stole-sons-funeral-after-he-delivered-lecture-on-suicide-as-a-sin


84 posted on 12/15/2018 7:58:50 AM PST by Wuli
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Must have been some sermon for someone to kill themselves at a funeral


92 posted on 12/15/2018 8:05:28 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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Poorly written article with no identified author to contact for clarification.

Were the attendees upset that the “nobility” of suicide was condemned? Or that the “certainty” of heaven for the deceased was not assured? Hard to know just what the issue was?

For years Catholics have believed that suicide was a mortal sin that must be avoided. I have at times called attention to their belief when counselling against suicide.

Have seldom, if ever seen a “good” death by suicide.


121 posted on 12/15/2018 8:38:38 AM PST by PsyCon
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Priest sounds mental and the Coach sounds mental.The end.


123 posted on 12/15/2018 8:40:14 AM PST by fatima (Free Hugs Today :))
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Recently had a similar experience at my cousin’s funeral. She was not an active member in any church, but had done many things for the community including helping to set up a scholarship fund for needy students. The preacher said he just didn’t know whether she was in heaven or hell, but said that the mourners better wake up so they didn’t end up damned for eternity. Not exactly a comforting message and no mention about God’s infinite mercy for those who believe.


148 posted on 12/15/2018 9:54:24 AM PST by The Great RJ ("Socialists are happy until they run out of other people's money." Margaret Thatcher)
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