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1 posted on 11/10/2018 2:45:18 PM PST by GeorgiaDawg32
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To: GeorgiaDawg32

That DNA ancestry stuff is for entertainment purposes only. Any relation to it and actual science is strictly coincidental.

https://thegeneticgenealogist.com/2007/04/25/is-genetic-genealogy-a-scam/

https://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20140425082329AA7jU5g


2 posted on 11/10/2018 2:49:51 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (Democracy dies when Democrats refuse to accept the result of a democratic election they didn't win.)
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Scotch-Irish means that the Scotts were brought into Ireland and Wales by the English to ‘pacify’ the area. That is where the term Black Irish comes from. Further most marriages involved people from the same general area. Again this is not unusual in areas where people from the same areas would move into together. Think the Irish areas of Boston, the Italian areas of NY and Boston, etc.


3 posted on 11/10/2018 2:50:46 PM PST by rstrahan
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To: GeorgiaDawg32

those tests are not necessarily accurate.

you are descended of Celts, enough said.


4 posted on 11/10/2018 2:50:55 PM PST by txnativegop (The political left, Mankinds intellectual hemlock)
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To: GeorgiaDawg32
Without knowing the details of how that 32% number is calculated, there is no way one can inherit a "percentage" that's not an inverse power of two, like 1/2 (50%) or 1/4 (25%), 1/8 (12.5%), etc.

But if you have ancestors from different generations who married into the Scotch-Irish bloodline, you could get to 32%, undoubtedly by multiple paths.

In other words, it's impossible to get 32% from a single ancestor at any distance of removal.

If, however, the number was 1/32, then it's easy: you are five generations removed from Scotch-Irish ancestor.

There's a big difference between 32% and 1/32, obviously.

6 posted on 11/10/2018 2:53:34 PM PST by Steely Tom ([Seth Rich] == [the Democrat's John Dean])
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To: GeorgiaDawg32
True experts explain DNA.
7 posted on 11/10/2018 2:55:09 PM PST by MrEdd (Caveat Emptor)
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To: GeorgiaDawg32
Scots-Irish could quiet easily have lived in England or Wales.

In fact Irish-Irish could have lived in England or Wales. Even for several generations. And a bunch of Scots, English and Welsh could have lived in Ireland voluntarily or not. Remember the story of St Patrick? The Irish were taking slaves from England up until the 12th century.

They are right next door to each other after all.

11 posted on 11/10/2018 3:01:53 PM PST by Harmless Teddy Bear (Somewhere there's danger, somewhere there's injustice, and somewhere else the tea is getting cold.)
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That’s hard to say. My DNA shows 73% England, Wales & NW Europe; 13% France and the rest is split between Acadian and Native American Indian.

My great-grandmother’s family on my father’s mother’s side is literally from England (Mayflower descendant, here). My mother’s father’s side, though, they come from the UK back in the 1600s, but the subsequent families were born here in the USA. Her mother, though, may have come in from the UK in a later era. I haven’t gotten that far to know yet, but understanding the geographic history of Nova Scotia leads me to that conclusion.

My father’s side, however, is Acadia/Mi’kMaq to the 1600s and then from France earlier than that. My father was 2nd generation USA born.

The lower the % ethnicity, the higher up on the ancestry chain, I do believe, and then it depends on which sides your DNA are being drawn from. Remember - we get our DNA from BOTH sets of parents.

Secrets - oh yeah...they’re everywhere. How far back has your brother reached on both sides?


12 posted on 11/10/2018 3:02:47 PM PST by ZephyrTX
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You are Generation 1, so Generation 4 are your great grandparents of whom you have 8. But your great grandparents may not have been 100% Scots-Irish or any other ethnicity, so these reports are not worth much. These results are based on the database that they maintain and only provide a some probability that your ancestors fit into this population. This is a marketing parlor trick. It may be interesting and even fun, but it’s not a serious tool.

If you know the names of your grandparents, then you can probably find enough ancestors to answer your question. Companies like Ancestry are selling their subscriptions and the DNA report is very useful to them for selling subscriptions. Some of this is free and you may be able to get everything you are looking for without paying for information.


14 posted on 11/10/2018 3:04:35 PM PST by centurion316
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Some of the testing companies do separate any of the Celtic populations. He could be getting Welsh when it’s really Irish or Scotch.

Who did he test with?

Also, you won’t get the exact results as your brother. It’s different for each sibling.


15 posted on 11/10/2018 3:04:47 PM PST by Andy'smom (Proud member of the basket of deplorables)
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Funny you should mention DNA results! My brother sent in his DNA and, get this, they advised him that he (and we)had what could only be a sister down in Florida! Yep! They were right! Who knew!? Careful with this stuff, it can be dynamite...


20 posted on 11/10/2018 3:10:01 PM PST by TalBlack (It's hard to shoot people when they are shooting back at you...)
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To: GeorgiaDawg32

Depends. Mixed background of several ancestors could equal 32%.


22 posted on 11/10/2018 3:17:24 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Twitter is Trump's laser pointer and the DemocRats are all cats.)
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I can tell you this much, many such test are concerned with the Y chromosome or mitochondrial DNA.

The Y, if present, comes exclusively from your paternal lineage just as mitochondrial DNA comes exclusive from the maternal. If they are basing their numbers off of these then that just represents your mom’s mom and her mothers in turn and your dad’s dad etc the same.

Thus if you’re a guy for your great grandparents that means just 2 out of 8 are represented. This level of representation halves every generation farther back you go.

With ladies this gives just 1 or 8 grandparents represented.

It somewhat improves if you toss in the X chromosome since these can come by way of paternal influence rather than just maternal.

The problem here is that the X chromosome, like all others besides the Y or mitochondrial DNA mentioned above, mixes things up every generation. Traits are less well defined as belonging to this or that group and people in two populations well dispersed from each other in time and place can still have similar genes even though not especially related in terms of conventional thinking about ancestry.

The uncertainty associated is only enhanced if you’re trying to assert membership in a group underrepresented in DNA material as, for instance, many indigenous Americans are. You may recall this last in relation to Fauxcohontas but here’s the rub ... geneticists don’t have a lot of North American Indian genetics for various reasons and they make up for it with DNA samples from Mexico ... Warren may be barely Native American but the only thing her genes prove is she might be barely Mexican. *bada*boom*kisk*

On a more serious note: I’m very suspicious of these DNA testing folks. With the odds of learning much of real use about our ancestry so easily undermined by our own genes it seems a scam to me ... and worse than a scam I deeply suspect the real underlying motives as this may have more to do with identifying us for the benefit of big government so that everything else we think it’s about is just pretty window dressing for a bait and switch.


24 posted on 11/10/2018 3:18:53 PM PST by Rurudyne (Standup Philosopher)
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Depending upon where the DNA test was done through, You can download the DNA results into a zip file on your computer. It can then be “uploaded” to several other DNA - Ancestry sites and will give more expansive interpolation.. GEDmatch is pretty cool. You can compare your DNA with a number of different research studies of different compiled groups.. DNA worked for me. I found a few half-siblings earlier this year.. https://www.yourdnaguide.com/upload-to-gedmatch/


25 posted on 11/10/2018 3:20:33 PM PST by Trapper6012
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Easiest way would be 1/4 on one side and 1/16 on the other. That’s pretty close to 32%.

Then, of course, you’re 1/1024th Injun (as is almost every damn body).


26 posted on 11/10/2018 3:20:48 PM PST by FirstFlaBn
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I’m pretty good at it. These are my opinions and you will not shake them unless you are equally good.

Forget getting anything meaningful from the DNA test vendors. Read their TOS and you will see that they own your data on the few markers they run, rather scary. If you have traced your ancestry the hard way to some very unique tribes and know the specific marker(s), then it can be meaningful (and expensive).

The hard way - family bibles and similar documents are number one, at least to get started. Next comes online searching, such as ancestry.com and geni.com, who both offer free initially. It’s a good way to get enough to lead you to the census records. Then you search parish records, which is the real deal.

Beware of two things. It’s an addictive pursuit, especially since ancestry gives immediate results (”Hints”). As soon as you leave US and Canada records, you will have to start paying (about $30 per month, but they run discounts frequently). Now about those hints. The addictive part is that you start opening windows into the past, and more and more hints. The bad thing (and you will see yourself doing it) is getting in a rush and becoming a ‘clickophile’. Meaningless tree information abounds, as done by others, needless to say.

So, pick your online place, set your privacy to restrict others from seeing your work, and explore it. If you whack a tree too much, just start a new one. After a year or two, if you are persistent, you might have something you find credible.

In general, you will find records in the US-Canada and England-Scotland-Wales-Ireland-Cornwall very searchable. Occasionally information will have to come from a cemetery or a parish clerk. There are a subscription databases available. When you go to the continent, it gets far harder. The language barriers, borders changing, things blown up and records missing are just a few of the challenges. So you will need more than just “Slovak”. You will want the town, the farm, the church, the river, and name searches (including variants) on your favorite search engine. I usually have ten to thirty tabs open.

I hated history as a student. Now I cannot get enough. Every new name and location makes be look up countless things. So jump in, get your feet wet, and be prepared to make countless mistakes while you discover that ancestral research is the study of life itself,


31 posted on 11/10/2018 3:26:24 PM PST by IgnaciKat ('m)
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I trust them. Took all three and they were in essential agreement. I also found I was 15% Native American but mainly Northern European.

Found a first cousin I knew nothing about. Confirmed much of what I suspected.

I trust them.


32 posted on 11/10/2018 3:27:45 PM PST by RichardW
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Pretty much the definitive popular work on this topic is:
Saxons, Vikings, and Celts: The Genetic Roots of Britain and Ireland,
ISBN 0393330753. by Bryan Sykes; Norton, 2006
Dr. Bryan Sykes practically invented the science of DNA ancestry, and is the world expert on the DNA of the British Isles. He is also founder Oxford Ancestors.

Very broadly speaking, the British Isles can be divided into two main genetic groups. The southeast of England which is trends Germanic, and all the rest of the British Isles which trend Celtic. This is a very broad simplification. Read the book for the details.
 

34 posted on 11/10/2018 3:36:50 PM PST by Governor Dinwiddie (Nuke the Caravan!)
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Depends on heritage of ancestors

Example grandad 100% Scots. Grandma 100% anything else say Scandinavian Their off spring would be 50 50.

Dad is 50% Scots and mom is 100%anything else Say German. Then off spring would be 25% Scots


39 posted on 11/10/2018 3:53:19 PM PST by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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Goodluck on your search. But, I suggest you ask Pochahontas Warren about DNA test results..


41 posted on 11/10/2018 3:55:57 PM PST by Sasparilla ( I'm Not Tired of Winning)
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right now ancestry is running a ad that allows you to get DNA done for 70.00!


44 posted on 11/10/2018 4:03:51 PM PST by tallyhoe
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