Testing, 1, 2, 3.......
I have a theory I’m going to throw out. I’m not trying to sell it. I’m not sold on it. I’m just rolling it around in my mind trying to see if it makes sense. I’m asking fellow FReeQs to poke holes in it, so have at it. Here goes...
1. We know that both Ds and Rs are Deep State.
2. We know that Trump is trying to clean out the DS.
What if.....
Both Ford and Kavanaugh are DS? They both grew up smack in the middle of the swamp, so it’s entirely possible.
3. We know that the midterm elections are important. Trump would like to have a Red Tsunami to bolster his agenda for the next two years.
What if.....
the whole Kavanaugh hearing was designed to show the public that both Ds and Rs are corrupt and that we’ve all been duped and controlled by the DS for decades and to encourage both D and R voters to come out and vote for Trump’s picks?
4. Read all the Q posts about K. Nowhere does Q explicitly state that he is pro-K. He does say “Justice K confirmation” and we, of course, assume that that means that Q is pro-K.
What if....
Q/Trump want K confirmed for some reason? To bring down a wholly corrupt SCOTUS? To enable impeachment of K and certain other Justices? I don’t have a lot of good theories here, but there are many possibilities and this is such a many-layered operation that I wouldn’t rule this out.
Consider the #1 thing in favor of K (IMO). It’s the fact that Trump picked him. That makes me inclined to support him. #2 is that he has a stellar record, but I have not verified that. I’ve taken it in good faith from other people who’ve said so. I haven’t looked myself at how he’s ruled on various cases. And with apologies to the lawyerFReeQs out there, I’m not a fan of lawyers and put no stock in the glowing letter about K written by the ABA. They take care of their own, much like the DS or any professional guild.
Some interesting questions (for which I have no answers):
1. What has been happening during the 2 weeks since the initial K hearings? What has the left been up to? What has the right been up to? What has the DS been up to? What has K been up to? What has Trump/Q been up to? Clearly K has been through the wringer. But was it solely due to the stress of dealing with false accusations and threats against his family? Or could it have been due to the stress of true accusations? Or the stress of being given “orders” from the DS or from the white hats? Many possibilities.
2. Why was K so near tears during so much of his opening statement? I kept waiting for it to build up to some specific tearjerker issue, but it did not. I thought the tears over his calendar/diary were going to be related to his father’s death or something. Is his father dead? I haven’t been able to find out. The only moment that I found worthy of Kleenex was the mention of his daughter suggesting they pray for Ford. But yet he was near tears the entire time. Very odd to me. (Also he was doing some weird thing with his tongue which I found unsettling but unless a body language expert can explain, I’m willing to ignore as an odd (though creepy-looking) tic.)
3. Why was he so evasive about having an FBI investigation? I can completely understand not wanting one. Who would? But wouldn’t they find evidence to clear him if he is indeed completely innocent? Or is there something worse he is afraid they would find? If I had been in his shoes and I were innocent, my objection would be that the Ds were just trying to stall and delay, but he never said that. He only seemed to be trying to avoid it. That makes me ask why.
4. Trump said he found Ford credible. !!! I did not. That makes me think there is much more to this situation than meets the eye. I.e., we on the outside of the power elite in DC cannot see everything that is going on and there is much that is going on.
5. I found almost nothing in Ford’s testimony to be credible or worthy of investigation. Either she was lying, or couldn’t remember on nearly every point. The only thing I will say in her favor is that I think it’s entirely possible to forget specifics after 35 years. That still doesn’t mean I find her believable. Also I know I’m biased but everything about her testimony screamed “acting” and “performance” to me.
6. Did you notice how the Ds kept repeating the word “credible” when describing her accusations? As if by applying that word, it would make it credible. I found that incredible.
7. Did you notice also how her testimony/accusation was described as “her” truth? Since when did we have “her” truth and “his” truth? What ever happened to “the” truth? When I hear someone say “my” truth or “her” truth that immediately sets off alarm bells in my head that say “lying”.
8. Do you find it interesting or coincidental or convenient that we are now delaying a vote until the vicinity of Oct 3 which is the test of the Presidential Alert System? Remember that the original vote was scheduled to be the same day as the test, but then both got delayed? Is that significant? It sure seems like it to me. But why?
Ok, have at it. Please attack my arguments and statements and let me know where there are holes in it, large or small. Of course if you have any supporting arguments, those are welcome, too.
good stuff
You make good points - raise interesting questions.
Deception is Article I of the Art of the War Deal. Deceiving the RATS in their final cornering will necessarily be complicated and out of our area of cerebral experience. Trust your gut.
I’ll say one thing about Kavanaugh ... I did not find his mind to be particularly sharp. Not in the vein of a Scalia or Thomas, or a Walter Williams or even Oliver North. In fact I often felt he was floundering and repeating himself because he couldn’t drum up an argument. Especially about beer... damn stop saying beer. I’m sure he may be a Boy Scout and a solid constitutionalist but I am not impressed with his intellect. If I think trump chose him because he seemed squeaky clean. Just goes to show you no one is immune.
>>What if.....Both Ford and Kavanaugh are DS?
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I just now finished listening to the You Are Free TV lady’s most recent video about this very idea! She gives TONS of specifics about not only who Crazy Chrissie’s father was, but also about who Kavanaugh’s father was and their connections together.
I am NOT convinced at all, nevertheless, I must admit she does an amazing job presenting her research/facts:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ypFMb-qg9kc
Regarding your theory: I can’t remember my research specifics now as too much time has passed. But I do recall that when the 5 or 6 “finalists” were released for SC nominee, Kavanaugh was the only one of the original 25-30 suggested that I didn’t agree with. I spent a couple of days researching that original list of 25-30 possible judges and there was something that sent up a red flag on K. When we got the 5-6 finalists I reviewed my notes and thought, “it won’t be him.”
Now I’ve misplaced the notes with too much summer company and a 2 week vacation so don’t know what my red flag was.
I have not found the old used ford reliable much less credible. The non-confirmation of her story by others supposedly present makes her claim completely invalid IMO.
Here’s this, can’t verify:
Re: Kavanaugh Hearings a National Disgrace
Can you tell us where you got that info, Enigma3, or provide any links?
If true, especially that Ford is CIA, it certainly puts a very different slant on the situation.
I don’t understand how it is that the 3rd party allegedly in the room at the time, whose last name is Judge, has not been required to testify.
Of course the fact that he and Kavanaugh were friends could very well affect his testimony, but at least there would be the opportunity to form an opinion about whether he is a reliable source or not.
I didn’t have a feeling one way or another about Ford’s testimony, but having been a rape victim myself, I can certainly say without reservation that if she truly was a victim, the last thing she would want to be doing was testifying before the whole world about her experience, unless she felt a moral obligation.
On the other hand, if she is CIA, all bets are off.
I thought Kavanaugh’s behavior did not recommend him as a potential Supreme Court judge.
Portraying himself as a victim is unwise and only creates more of a victim mindset, and the amount of evasiveness and sheer whining on his part was embarrassing, imho.
Clarence Thomas was a disgrace as a Supreme Court Judge, and with Kavanaugh’s past record of voting against women’s rights and the environment, I think he will not be better.
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The back story to this is quite interesting.
1. A parent of Kavanaugh’s (a judge) ruled against a parent of Ford’s in a court hearing many moons ago.
2. An internet blogger stated that Christine Ford is currently (amongst other things) an undergrad CIA recruiter at Stanford.
3. That which was scrubbed from Ford’s yearbooks indicates that she and her cohorts were hard partiers in high school and got very drunk on occasion.
4. Both Ford’s parents are/were CIA assets.
5. The goodie #1. The CIA under Gina Haspel noted a big upsurge in traffic between two of its secret bases. Supposedly she/CIA captured all the chatter and determined that a rogue element within the CIA (still haven’t cleaned it out yet) is behind the Kavanaugh attacks. She then confided this information to Trump and Grassley. Shortly thereafter Grassley called for a vote to send the nomination to the full Senate.
6. Goodie #2. Q has stated that the Dems tried to bargain the Kavanaugh seat by trading a yes on Kavanaugh for not releasing the unredacted FISA pages. That was summarily rejected by Trump et all.
One of the major problems I have with this is that the Dems have had some of this information and sat on it for at least 3 months. That doesn’t exactly smell like above board ethics. It just plain smells.
As has been stated elsewhere, the accusers have brought NO corroboration for any of these charges. In fact, the 4 people Ford brought up have all issued statements that the events as described by Ford did not happen. Ford did state that one person witnessed the party. She is a close friend, so rather biased.
Finally, the woman prosecutor who questioned Ford later told the 51 Republicans in the Senate that she would never bring the case to trial for - wait for the boom - lack of evidence. Not even enough evidence to ask for a search warrant!
the whole Kavanaugh hearing was designed to show the public that both Ds and Rs are corrupt and that we’ve all been duped and controlled by the DS for decades....
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My 2 cents:
President Trump will have yet another example of dirty R's shortly; Rod Rosenstein is a Republican. There's no need to prove that Republican's can be dirty - conservatives have been screaming about their congress critters for some time now. The harder task for Trump is to take down the government swamp without revealing that approximately 70% are dirty. He wants to maintain the public's confidence and build the Republican brand, choosing a deep state SC won't help him do that.
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generally:....and to encourage both D and R voters to come out and vote for Trump’s picks?
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My 2 cents:
Trump picked Kavanaugh for SC, and has gone on record for lauding the honesty of Kavanaugh.(2275)
If, per your theory, Trump picked Kavanaugh to demonstrate both R's and D's are corrupt, that wouldn't, "encourage both D and R voters to come out for Trump's picks." If anything, it would damage Trump's credibility regarding any other picks. Winning and knowing whom to trust with the republic is what builds Trump's brand.
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generally: 4. Read all the Q posts about K. Nowhere does Q explicitly state that he is pro-K. He does say “Justice K confirmation” and we, of course, assume that that means that Q is pro-K.
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My 2 cents:
Q is implicitly pro Kavanaugh. Q is pro Trump and Trump is pro Kavanaugh. Q has spelled out that Kavanaugh's confirmation is followed by [RR] removal. Q has hi-lighted the fact that Kavanaugh is in agreement with military tribunal law and is therefore part of Trump's plan. Q has focused on the madness/panic of deep staters throughout this process as they violently oppose Kavanaugh, causing damage to the Dem brand in their desperation. Q says, those who scream the loudest....
I don't believe Trump would stack the court with a deep state person in order to "bring down" the court. He's focused on D5/Declas right now and the SC needs to be stable and honest for his plans and timing. Why would he choose to jeopardize all present planning by inserting a dirty justice for life (only to pull him down as a "bad choice") when he can just continue dismantling the swamp methodically per the plan by inserting an honest one?
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generally: What if....
Q/Trump want K confirmed for some reason? To bring down a wholly corrupt SCOTUS? To enable impeachment of K and certain other Justices?
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My 2 cents:
Trump wants to drain the swamp - confirming a swamp creature would be stocking it. Trump is so good at dismantling subtly that people have trust issues fearing nothing is happening, so I don't see him pulling apart the SC with impeachment of K, his choice whom he lauds as honest, and "other justices."
In short, I see all this in a light that is opposed to the theory that Kavanaugh is DS and that Trump would pick him and promote his honesty.
8. Do you find it interesting or coincidental or convenient that we are now delaying a vote until the vicinity of Oct 3 which is the test of the Presidential Alert System? Remember that the original vote was scheduled to be the same day as the test, but then both got delayed? Is that significant? It sure seems like it to me. But why?
Very nice outside-the-box thinking on Kavanaugh but I believe he is one of the good guys. I don’t think President Trump would go through all this trouble only to have his SCJ nominee fail. The deep state showed their insane hand and went all-in to try to destroy this person. That goes against the possibility that President Trump would eventually be in on this since they have it all.
To deceive the deep state, perhaps, but I would think it isn’t to set up Kavanaugh for impeachment later. Rather maybe it is a way to set up the deep state to call for FBI investigations and they end up looking in to the character assassination of a SCJ nominee and what all dark forces are behind it? That may include what Q might be hinting to us with ChiDiFi being in China.
Perhaps this will lead to an investigation in to ChiDiFi taking orders from another country on all this which just adds more treason to the list of traitors. I do hope the left’s call for an FBI’s investigation in to this backfires on them BIGLY. Just more food for thought.
CGato
Hi generally, et al! Posting blind here. As always I admire the questions you are able to generate. I found I did have some thoughts which surfaced while reading them:
generally said:
Testing, 1, 2, 3.......
I have a theory I’m going to throw out. I’m not trying to sell it. I’m not sold on it. I’m just rolling it around in my mind trying to see if it makes sense. I’m asking fellow FReeQs to poke holes in it, so have at it. Here goes...
1. We know that both Ds and Rs are Deep State.
2. We know that Trump is trying to clean out the DS.
What if.....
Both Ford and Kavanaugh are DS? They both grew up smack in the middle of the swamp, so it’s entirely possible.
3. We know that the midterm elections are important. Trump would like to have a Red Tsunami to bolster his agenda for the next two years.
What if.....
the whole Kavanaugh hearing was designed to show the public that both Ds and Rs are corrupt and that we’ve all been duped and controlled by the DS for decades and to encourage both D and R voters to come out and vote for Trump’s picks?
4. Read all the Q posts about K. Nowhere does Q explicitly state that he is pro-K. He does say “Justice K confirmation” and we, of course, assume that that means that Q is pro-K.
What if....
Q/Trump want K confirmed for some reason? To bring down a wholly corrupt SCOTUS? To enable impeachment of K and certain other Justices? I don’t have a lot of good theories here, but there are many possibilities and this is such a many-layered operation that I wouldn’t rule this out.
Consider the #1 thing in favor of K (IMO). It’s the fact that Trump picked him. That makes me inclined to support him. #2 is that he has a stellar record, but I have not verified that. I’ve taken it in good faith from other people who’ve said so. I haven’t looked myself at how he’s ruled on various cases. And with apologies to the lawyerFReeQs out there, I’m not a fan of lawyers and put no stock in the glowing letter about K written by the ABA. They take care of their own, much like the DS or any professional guild.
Some interesting questions (for which I have no answers):
1. What has been happening during the 2 weeks since the initial K hearings? What has the left been up to? What has the right been up to? What has the DS been up to? What has K been up to? What has Trump/Q been up to? Clearly K has been through the wringer. But was it solely due to the stress of dealing with false accusations and threats against his family? Or could it have been due to the stress of true accusations? Or the stress of being given “orders” from the DS or from the white hats? Many possibilities.
2. Why was K so near tears during so much of his opening statement? I kept waiting for it to build up to some specific tearjerker issue, but it did not. I thought the tears over his calendar/diary were going to be related to his father’s death or something. Is his father dead? I haven’t been able to find out. The only moment that I found worthy of Kleenex was the mention of his daughter suggesting they pray for Ford. But yet he was near tears the entire time. Very odd to me. (Also he was doing some weird thing with his tongue which I found unsettling but unless a body language expert can explain, I’m willing to ignore as an odd (though creepy-looking) tic.)
3. Why was he so evasive about having an FBI investigation? I can completely understand not wanting one. Who would? But wouldn’t they find evidence to clear him if he is indeed completely innocent? Or is there something worse he is afraid they would find? If I had been in his shoes and I were innocent, my objection would be that the Ds were just trying to stall and delay, but he never said that. He only seemed to be trying to avoid it. That makes me ask why.
4. Trump said he found Ford credible. !!! I did not. That makes me think there is much more to this situation than meets the eye. I.e., we on the outside of the power elite in DC cannot see everything that is going on and there is much that is going on.
5. I found almost nothing in Ford’s testimony to be credible or worthy of investigation. Either she was lying, or couldn’t remember on nearly every point. The only thing I will say in her favor is that I think it’s entirely possible to forget specifics after 35 years. That still doesn’t mean I find her believable. Also I know I’m biased but everything about her testimony screamed “acting” and “performance” to me.
6. Did you notice how the Ds kept repeating the word “credible” when describing her accusations? As if by applying that word, it would make it credible. I found that incredible.
7. Did you notice also how her testimony/accusation was described as “her” truth? Since when did we have “her” truth and “his” truth? What ever happened to “the” truth? When I hear someone say “my” truth or “her” truth that immediately sets off alarm bells in my head that say “lying”.
8. Do you find it interesting or coincidental or convenient that we are now delaying a vote until the vicinity of Oct 3 which is the test of the Presidential Alert System? Remember that the original vote was scheduled to be the same day as the test, but then both got delayed? Is that significant? It sure seems like it to me. But why?
Ok, have at it. Please attack my arguments and statements and let me know where there are holes in it, large or small. Of course if you have any supporting arguments, those are welcome, too.
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texokie responds:
As long as we are flipping everything over:
I saw a story positing that sleeze lawyer, Avenatti - along with Stormy, are actually White Hats or leveraged into helping the Trump/Q Plan. If that is the case, it would certainly fit in with your hypothetic scenario. (That is hard to really buy.... but it certainly is possible.)
GW BUSH has been batting for BK to get confirmed. This makes me think that indeed there may be a DS mechination going on in here somewhere. Or maybe GW is trying to rack up a little bit of good karma before everything starts coming apart.
Laura Ingraham: states frequently that she has known BK in context of the Supreme Court clerking they were doing. Is she a DS???? Or if he is DS and she is not, was his mask so good that he fooled her, as he supposedly has for so many women all through his life who have spoken up for him in recent days? Or are they both bona fide White Hats as we have been supposing them to be? (Of course I prefer the last, but I do have an open mind and try to think “logically.” At the same time I hope my open mind does not allow my brain to fall out.
RE your point number 4., where you are not seeing indicators of Q being Pro-K. I recalled that Q DOES say “ Welcome aboard, Judge K.” in #2277. That certainly seems pro K to me. He states “Welcome aboard” to both Judge K and Alan Dershowitz. He does welcome Rudy G to the White House, but does not state “ welcome aboard.”
Was K a DS who got forgiven and is whole heartedly hitting now for the White Hats? Or, as your questions suggest, an in-for-darkness Black Hat? (Oh I hope not.) In any case now, if he’s had moderate or liberal biases and tendencies, having been so publicly mugged, perhaps he has been flipped, as some of the memes suggest. A liberal is a conservative who has not been mugged. This has certainly been much more than a mugging - it has been arguably a crucifixion. I wonder how this will affect him from here on out - whether he sits on the high bench or not.