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Putting Boots on Mars Requires a Long-Term Commitment, Experts Tell Senators
Space.com ^ | July 26, 2018 | Meghan Bartels, Space.com Senior Writer

Posted on 07/27/2018 11:39:09 AM PDT by ETL

A group of senators heard expert opinions during a committee hearing on Wednesday (July 25) about what will be required — logistically and scientifically — to safely land humans on Mars.

The hearing was coordinated by Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Texas), who is chair of the Subcommittee on Space, Science, and Competitiveness. "Mars is today the focal point of our national space program," Cruz said during opening remarks. "If American boots are to be the first to set foot on the surface, it will define a new generation — generation Mars."

But right now, NASA's focus seems to be split between the moon and Mars — a point raised by Sen. Bill Nelson (D-Fla.), the ranking Democrat on the subcommittee, who asked whether the NASA budget is being "robbed" because efforts aimed at a journey to the moon are drawing resources away from the real priority of Mars. [Path to Mars Should Be Flexible, Experts Agree]

The panelists seemed to push back against that portrayal, arguing that low-Earth orbit and lunar missions offer valuable testing grounds for technologies humans will need to reach Mars at all. But the real goal of the hearing seemed to be one of building a case for a long-term, firm NASA vision. Three of the panelists talked about the importance of stable funding and priorities.

"We have to have a vision that lasts more than one administration," veteran astronaut Peggy Whitson said. "We have to have a budget line that will support those goals and objectives that we are striving to reach."

The industry representative on the panel underscored that point as well, citing the challenge of retaining expert staff when mission budgets are unpredictable. "Funding stability is absolutely vital in industry," said Tory Bruno, head of United Launch Alliance. "If you don't have work for the people on your team to do, they scatter."

The four panelists also seemed intent on balancing the abstract value of a Mars mission with the tangible spin-off technologies such a journey would create.

"You can't put a price tag, you can't put importance on how Apollo fundamentally changed all of us," said Dava Newman, an engineer at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology. "That's how I look at the Mars mission now — we get humans there with all our great science, it will just lift us up." But she was also careful to mention more concrete potential benefits, like anti-cancer advances that could spring from tackling the threat posed by radiation in space.

Another clear takeaway from the testimony was the sheer number of tasks NASA needs to accomplish before such a mission can become a reality: everything from figuring out how to land larger spacecraft on Mars to developing systems that can function completely independently of Earth to making sure astronauts can withstand the mental challenges of being so far from home.

All those tasks mean NASA can't do it alone and needs to find a way to bring other countries as well as private companies into the mix. "People make it sound like the government is actually building all the hardware," said Chris Carberry, head of Explore Mars, a nonprofit organization dedicated to promoting exploration of Mars. "They're not."


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Democrat Rep Sheila Jackson Lee wants to know if Neil Armstrong's boots are still there.

Sheila Jackson Lee (Democrat!)
Member of the U.S. House of Representatives
From Texas's 18th district

On a visit to the NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory in 2005, Jackson Lee made embarrassing news by asking if the Mars Pathfinder had taken an image of the flag planted there in 1969 by Neil Armstrong.[2]

Prior to the 110th Congress, Jackson Lee served on the House Science Committee and on the Subcommittee that oversees space policy and NASA.

http://web.archive.org/web/20100409095818/http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sheila_Jackson_Lee

1 posted on 07/27/2018 11:39:09 AM PDT by ETL
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To: ETL

Mars is just a refueling station for trips to Jupiter!


2 posted on 07/27/2018 11:40:57 AM PDT by PGR88
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To: ETL

No, it requires a one way only commitment:-)


3 posted on 07/27/2018 11:43:17 AM PDT by Harpotoo
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To: PGR88

We’re not allowed to go there per 2010.


4 posted on 07/27/2018 11:43:55 AM PDT by ealgeone
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To: ETL

Obviously the first step is to figure out how to fold space. It’s easy peasy from there. :)


5 posted on 07/27/2018 11:46:59 AM PDT by cuban leaf (The US will not survive the obama presidency. The world may not either.)
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To: PGR88

Make it easier by setting up base on Phobos.


6 posted on 07/27/2018 11:47:30 AM PDT by Zathras
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To: ETL

7 posted on 07/27/2018 11:51:56 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lost my tagline on Flight MH370. Sorry for the inconvenience.)
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To: ETL
like anti-cancer advances that could spring from tackling the threat posed by radiation in space.

Boy, there's a leap of faith.

8 posted on 07/27/2018 11:52:25 AM PDT by Zuben Elgenubi (NOPe to GOPe)
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"We have to have a vision that lasts more than one administration,"

Kind of hard to do that when you get an administration that thinks NASA's mission is to boost self-esteem among Muslims.


9 posted on 07/27/2018 11:53:14 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: UCANSEE2

Sorry, UCANSEE2, ICANTSEE the image you posted. Only empty box on my end.


10 posted on 07/27/2018 11:53:53 AM PDT by ETL (Obama-Hillary, REAL Russia collusion! Uranium-One Deal, Missile Defense, Iran Deal, Nukes: Click ETL)
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To: ETL

Really?

And here I though it would be just a weekend trip....like going to Vegas.

Looking forward to going....Can’t wait to leave


11 posted on 07/27/2018 11:57:31 AM PDT by Vendome (I've Gotta Be Me https://youtu.be/wH-pk2vZGw2M)
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To: ETL

Translation: we need lots and lots of money for many, many years, and don’t expect to see any actual results for a long time.


12 posted on 07/27/2018 12:13:03 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: UCANSEE2

At least it isn’t Manchester 1973.


13 posted on 07/27/2018 12:16:56 PM PDT by wally_bert (Just call me Angelo or babe.)
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To: ETL

Boots on the ground is cool... but REAL expensive. I would like to see an analysis of what next gen robots could do on Mars. The future of space exploration is machines not people. I would put resources on robots.


14 posted on 07/27/2018 12:21:02 PM PDT by plain talk
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We’ll never be able to discover if life rose or didn’t there until we put geologists on the ground.


15 posted on 07/27/2018 12:25:43 PM PDT by onedoug
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To: ETL

We can’t go to Mars, we have to take care of our vulnerables!


16 posted on 07/27/2018 12:25:58 PM PDT by cdcdawg
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Boots on the ground is cool... but REAL expensive. I would like to see an analysis of what next gen robots could do on Mars. The future of space exploration is machines not people.

NASA has a plan to put robot bees on Mars

FoxNews.com/Science ^ | Apr 9, 2018 | Rafi Letzter Staff Writer | LiveScience

NASA has two teams of researchers working to design a robotic bee that can fly on Mars.

The space agency announced the project on March 30. It's in its early stages, but the idea is to replace modern rovers — which are slow, bulky and very expensive — with swarms of sensor-studded, fast-moving micro-bots that can cover much more ground at a relatively low cost.

Literally called Marsbees, the little bots are "flapping wing flyers of a bumblebee size with cicada-sized wings," NASA officials wrote.

(Excerpt) Read more at foxnews.com ...

17 posted on 07/27/2018 12:26:08 PM PDT by ETL (Obama-Hillary, REAL Russia collusion! Uranium-One Deal, Missile Defense, Iran Deal, Nukes: Click ETL)
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To: UCANSEE2

; )


18 posted on 07/27/2018 12:27:35 PM PDT by leaning conservative (snow coming, school cancelled, yayyyyyyyyy!!!!!!!!!!!)
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Democrat Rep Sheila Jackson Lee wants to know if Neil Armstrong's boots are still there.

I assume that is a joke at her expense?

19 posted on 07/27/2018 12:32:41 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: leaning conservative; UCANSEE2

Well, you obviously were able to see the image. Could be a needless security block on the public PC I’m currently using.


20 posted on 07/27/2018 12:33:05 PM PDT by ETL (Obama-Hillary, REAL Russia collusion! Uranium-One Deal, Missile Defense, Iran Deal, Nukes: Click ETL)
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