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There IS something going on that Trump is aware of.

Of course he's aware of the Q stuff; how could he avoid being aware of an online 'movement' that involves many people who support him politically? I'm sure he's aware of many who work against him, too. And it makes political sense to make use of support. But that doesn't mean that Q has an inside line to the Executive, or that Q is even benign.

Imagine a scenario:

You've been a follower of Q for a year or more. He's always seemed to support the same interests that you do, and he's managed to convince you that he has insider knowledge. You are impressed by his understanding of your deep concerns, his Idealism and promises. You are also very much invested in the whole Q thing - after all, you've given many, many hours and days of your time to this endeavor which you have been convinced is in aid of Truth, Justice, and the American Way.

Then one day, Q starts to very subtly shift the narrative - not much at all, just enough to make some little part of you wonder 'What's Up? THIS doesn't sound like Q'!

But, you are Invested! - and it's a small thing. You scan back in your mind to all of the times that you may have questioned Q, but everything turned out fine; and you tell yourself that you must be wrong, because Q couldn't possibly be misleading you; he must be indicating knowledge of something important. So you swallow it; and as time goes on, you are doing Q's bidding, instead of just having a good time figuring out his cryptic clues and enjoying the reinforcement of your own beliefs that Q provides.

This is how psychological manipulation works, and how cults work. It's used all the time on behalf of many different interests, and has been forever.

I don't know who or what Q is, and that's precisely why I'm not on the bandwagon. Doesn't it worry you that something like this could be going on, when you could 'learn' everything you are learning on your own, without associating yourself with an online 'game' whose ultimate goal you can't possibly know?

Now, it can be suggested that ANY involvement in any online forum might make one subject to being 'used' in some way without knowing it. But it seems to me that when the whole 'enterprise' centers around very open-ended, cryptic messages instead of clear, reasoned argument, there's a much greater chance that you - and if not you, then simpler minds - are being manipulated unaware.

Someone mentioned the Federalist Papers to me today. It seems to me that many of the people 'playing Q' on the Internet would benefit much more from just sitting down with some good American history books, if they want to understand how this country became great, the principles and political philosophies that went into its founding, how and why we have fallen away from our beginnings, and why we are suffering all the vicissitudes that we are. Or, for those who keep telling me that some people need to be brought around in 'little bites' - spend some of that time on building a website that introduces people to basic principles in itty bitty bites - SOMETHING besides letting some unknown interest suck up your time this way!

I see so many people on FR who seem terrified of the insidious, even 'demonic' dangers of religious 'cults' - but seem to have no issues with walking into what could be a political one just as dangerous. SMH!

You've been a follower of Q for a year or more. He's always seemed to support the same interests that you do, and he's managed to convince you that he has insider knowledge. You are impressed by his understanding of your deep concerns, his Idealism and promises. You are also very much invested in the whole Q thing - after all, you've given many, many hours and days of your time to this endeavor which you have been convinced is in aid of Truth, Justice, and the American Way.

Then one day, Q starts to very subtly shift the narrative - not much at all, just enough to make some little part of you wonder 'What's Up? THIS doesn't sound like Q'!

First of all, Jamestown1630, this demonstrates you have no clue how Q drops work at all. . . or much knowledge of Q.

Q does not instruct or bid anyone to do anything. Q points out links for people to research and verify the veracity themselves. There is no leading anyone anywhere to do Q's bidding. THAT is where you are completely off the rails.

Q has NOT been around for a year or more. . . this displays your ignorance of what you are criticizing. The posts that would be later known as Q appeared for the first time in a post on 4Chan on October 27, 2017, a little more than eight months ago under the signature of "Alice In Wonderland." This later morphed into "Alice and Wonderland" and then in mid-November to "Q."

Someone mentioned the Federalist Papers to me today. It seems to me that many of the people 'playing Q' on the Internet would benefit much more from just sitting down with some good American history books, if they want to understand how this country became great, the principles and political philosophies that went into its founding, how and why we have fallen away from our beginnings, and why we are suffering all the vicissitudes that we are.

If you had at all followed the Q discussions on FreeRepublic you would have found that many of the people discussing Q have cited the Federalist papers and are intimately familiar with them. We are, in fact, quite familiar with this nation's founding documents and the philosophical discussions that undergirded their creation. Q sometimes has referenced them. . . but you wouldn't know that because you have not read the Q drops.

Your insulting insinuations that we who do the deep diving into the areas, the rabbit holes, that Q points people to look into are somehow akin to religious cultists is what turns us off to those who make those claims. We do NOT follow the "pronouncements" of Q like they were handed down from on high. We look where he points to areas that need investigating. . . and find that they link together on our own. IT is not Q that has constructed these links, but the people who participated in the misdeeds originally which we uncover, and find they are ALSO involved in the other misdeeds over there. Such repeated findings of the same actors over-and-over again in seemingly non-connected events start to build a pattern that IS CONNECTED. . . and once you start seeing the web of those connections, it cannot be unseen and becomes unmistakeable in other areas and much easier to see.

Q pointed out the interconnection of the MSM, political class, banking, European old-family money, and the Deep State people, which had their own long-term connections back to schools, fraternal organizations, and clubs, at the top of every bureaucratic department of our government, and the in-and-out revolving door of family members between them. Early on Q said to "follow the wives" —who, incidentally, often do not have the same surname as their husbands especially among progressives. That simple suggestion opened a huge door of internecine connections. Money and even power often went to the children or other close relatives not blatantly obvious, but found when one started digging. Surnames were legally changed to obfuscate connections, but track them back and eyes get opened to the relationships. . . or do you believe in coincidences?

Frankly after you've found the same people at the bottom of the third, fourth, fifth, sixth, seventh, eighth, ad nauseam rabbit hole, coincidence is no longer a valid possibility or even on the horizon any more. One is so far beyond coincidence that it is a certainty there is something deeper involved. First time, Ok, that's educational. Second time, that's coincidence. But third and all subsequent times? Those are enemy action.

To return to your first point:

Of course he's aware of the Q stuff; how could he avoid being aware of an online 'movement' that involves many people who support him politically? I'm sure he's aware of many who work against him, too. And it makes political sense to make use of support. But that doesn't mean that Q has an inside line to the Executive, or that Q is even benign.

If Trump knows about Q and the QAnon phenomenon, then he'd have had his people research it. He'd know that be doing what you say, he's validating Q and what Q is saying. Do you REALLY think he'd validate it if it were not true? I can't believe he would. Ergo, he knows about Q and it is not something he would be doing thoughtlessly just for support. . . and we have evidence he has instructed his people about Q supporters.