[DiogenesLamp]

but unfortunately the moral sin of slavery outweighed the law allowing it

Here we go again with focusing on something the Union also had, and which it had no intention of changing.

Everyone nowadays has been brainwashed with slavery on the brain. The war had nothing to do with slavery. Lincoln didn't suddenly wake up one morning and say "Those Southerners have slavery, so I'm going to attack them."

What Lincoln did do was to wake up one day and say "If those Southerners established independent trade with Europe, two hundred million dollars per year will be lost to my backers in New York, and the Federal Government will also lose 80% of it's income."

Do you not realize when you've been conned? The propaganda machine has now got most Americans thinking that Lincoln sent an invasion force into the South to stop slavery, and that is utter bullsh*t. He sent that invasion force to do one thing, and that was to prevent the South from Trading with Europe without New York and Washington DC taking their cut.

"Slavery" was a post hoc justification for forces he had already unleashed to destroy the enemies of the New York/Washington empire.

Do you know who the New York/Washington DC empire is? It's the same F***ing bastards who are running the "Deep State"/"Crony Capitalist"/"Establishement"/"Uniparty" scam in Washington DC today.

New York and Washington more or less run the entire United States, and the rest of us are mostly too stupid to realize where the actual power lies. We do our "Tea Party" thing as if we can fight these multi-billionaires and their propaganda apparatus in their New York broadcasting studios.

Who made that Idiot Barack Obama into a somebody? New York did. Who made that corrupt psycho-nazi hate witch Hillary into a somebody? Again, New York did that.

The New York based propaganda system we call "news" has long been the tool of the oligarchs that more or less control Washington DC, and this is why they are so pissed at Trump's ability to circumvent their media weapon. For the first time since 1860, their power is being threatened.

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I agree with you about the Deep State (Jesuit banksters?) in Lincoln’s day.

But I also agree that Lincoln sweated over and hated slavery.

“A man’s word’s betray his heart” and Lincoln’s Douglas debates as well as all the rest of his writings prove old Abe cared deeply about the moral issue of slavery that threatened the beauty of our Constitutional ideals.

As a Christian, I believe God is intimately involved in the affairs of men, and that He put the burden of the sinful horror of slavery upon Lincoln.

That said, I completely agree with you that Lincoln waged an economic Civil War.

[BroJoeK]

DiogenesLamp: "Everyone nowadays has been brainwashed with slavery on the brain.
The war had nothing to do with slavery.
Lincoln didn't suddenly wake up one morning and say 'Those Southerners have slavery, so I'm going to attack them.'

What Lincoln did do was to wake up one day and say 'If those Southerners established independent trade with Europe, two hundred million dollars per year will be lost to my backers in New York, and the Federal Government will also lose 80% of it's income.' "

Both of those hypothetical "quotes" from Lincoln are pure fantasy, one no less than the other, both invented by people with their own axes to grind, not Lincoln's true words to report.

DiogenesLamp: "Do you not realize when you've been conned? "

All the conning here comes from DiogenesLamp.

DiogenesLamp: "He sent that invasion force to do one thing, and that was to prevent the South from Trading with Europe without New York and Washington DC taking their cut."

You know I think I saw something like that in JK Rowling's latest movie, "Fantastic Beasts and Where to Find Them"