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People Who Think Their Beliefs Are Better Than Others' Probably Know the Least
Curiosity ^ | June 29, 2018 | Reuben Westmaas

Posted on 07/03/2018 6:55:35 AM PDT by Heartlander

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To: robroys woman; papertyger; Pelham

I’m a southerner

I understand

I just don’t agree

In fact I don’t agree at all

Free Republic is full of Holy Rollers who think they know best and live to hammer that home

I’m not one of them

I do however think people in Kentucky ignorant or not per Seattle lofty standards are far more God fearing and their voting habits and culture in general reflects that by a 24 point swing in KY to Trumps favor over the Wash state vote

I don’t see how a Christian can vote for infanticide and the homosexual perversion of our culture just for starts no matter how high their IQ

Hence Kentuckians dullards they must be have more faith and less hubris about their beliefs than those super intelligent northwest denizens


101 posted on 07/03/2018 4:09:26 PM PDT by wardaddy (Hanged not hung.)
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To: wardaddy; robroys woman
Hence Kentuckians dullards they must be have more faith and less hubris about their beliefs than those super intelligent northwest denizens

Doesn't that kind of miss the whole point RRW was making?

The minority subset of Christians in Seattle have to exhibit more dedication to follow their faith than the majority Christians of Kentucky. How the aggregate of both places vote in a general election says little to nothing about the depth and dedication of their respective Christian's faith.

For what it's worth, I KNOW why I am no longer an Evangelical Protestant. Nevertheless, I have had only one Evangelical Protestant Freeper ASK me why I'm a Catholic now; the rest are too busy TELLING me why I am a Catholic. So in that sense, I see RRW's point as exceedingly plausible.

Many know what they believe, but few can lay out clinically, logically, and dispassionately why they believe it.

102 posted on 07/03/2018 4:42:05 PM PDT by papertyger
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To: robroys woman

I denounce so-called Higher Criticism, and am more orthodox than any of the Celebrity Preachers.

I also wrote the first draft of a monograph emphasizing that truth from I Corinthians 13:12 in 1988.

I consider it churchianity versus Christianity.


103 posted on 07/03/2018 5:04:44 PM PDT by YogicCowboy ("I am not entirely on anyone's side, because no one is entirely on mine." - J. R. R. Tolkien)
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To: papertyger

That’s fine

That’s wonderful

I didn’t bring up your Catholicism or anyone else’s

You did

You’re not the first person I’ve known go from whatever to Catholic or Catholic to whatever

I don’t care why you wen that way if it felt appropriate to you....you’re still a Christian. Good enoug

The rest of what both you and her said I don’t much cotton to

No offense it came across as snotty

So save the offended Catholic strawman for someone else

I detected the usual Yankees are simple smarter crap

Then stay with the smart folks and leave we dullards in our less analytical faith be


104 posted on 07/03/2018 5:50:25 PM PDT by wardaddy (Hanged not hung.)
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To: OneVike
The Hebrew word used for days is the same Hebrew word used when Moses wrote about the 7th day will be the Sabath.

But how do we define a “day”?

To an earthling, a day is defined as one revolution of our planet (measured from sundown to sundown in the Bible?).

But how does the Creator measure each of His first days in the beginning? Is His “day” measured the same as our “day”?

Would His “day” be the rotation of a planet that He was just creating in the beginning?

Does it matter beyond stating that He also created time while creating everything else?

To me, that part of Genesis reads like white boarding a new project at work, or in this case, whatever this matrix program and on-going story is that He created and that we’re all born into.

Beyond that, I’m content to say that I don’t know, like how I don’t know if time references are in our time or His and I’m okay with that.

105 posted on 07/03/2018 5:58:43 PM PDT by GBA (Here in the matrix, merrily, merrily, life is but a dream.)
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To: robroys woman

Actually, what difference does it make? The important thing is Jesus Christ and Him crucified, no one comes to the Father, but through Jesus, and “the Words I give you are life”. Everything else is gravy. I don’t need to know how many angels can dance on the head of a pin. I just trust the LORD that His Word is true.


106 posted on 07/03/2018 6:10:15 PM PDT by Flaming Conservative ((Pray without ceasing))
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To: robroys woman

Well, you might read up on Jesus’ experience with dinner at Mary and Martha’s house. One of them just sat and drank in what Jesus said, and the other one fretted over every little thing. Now why do you suppose the Holy Spirit prompted the writers of the New Testament to include that episode?


107 posted on 07/03/2018 6:17:00 PM PDT by Flaming Conservative ((Pray without ceasing))
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To: robroys woman
I don’t know about Seattle, but the rest makes sense. It’s not called the Bible Belt for nothing, though Kentucky is probably more buckle than belt.

Most of my childhood and half of my biology came from western Kentucky and, iirc, “which church do you belong to/go to?” was the one of the first questions you got no matter where you went.

108 posted on 07/03/2018 6:45:47 PM PDT by GBA (Here in the matrix, merrily, merrily, life is but a dream)
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To: robroys woman

Our pastor (suburb of Seattle) says that the Pacific Northwest has never had a “revival” of faith like everywhere else in the country. His dream is to change that, and he is working with churches from all over the area to do that.

“So now if each one of you, just by living a Godly life, and interacting with others could change just ONE person in a year - why that would be 3,000 new believers!”

Easier said than done, but....

A couple of weeks ago he was saying how he was getting ready to officiate a wedding on a Saturday. Some muslim guy walks in off the street. Asks to talk with someone in charge. He ended up meeting with one of the associate pastors.

“Um - yes - may I help you?”

“I hope so. Jesus came to me in a dream, and he gave me an image of your church. I finally found it. I want to be a Christian.”

Here in the suburbs of Seattle! And a “boring” Presbyterian church. Although we do have a group of Christians from Rwanda that have set up church in another building on campus, and they add some spice when they join us on occasion!


109 posted on 07/03/2018 7:11:47 PM PDT by 21twelve
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To: GBA

Do you work a million years before you get a say off for the Sabbath? NO. So my point stands.


110 posted on 07/03/2018 9:33:50 PM PDT by OneVike (Just another Christian waiting to go home)
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To: OneVike
Well, I’m not God, so I really can’t say. But as an earthling, no, I’m on a different time clock.

And if the Creator, too, was on this same time clock when He created whatever this matrix thing is we’re living in, then I’m okay with that, too.

It doesn’t add or subtract from my awe for the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit.

However, now that you mention it, I am still a bit confused as to which day the Sabbath actually is.

I know it’s the last day of the week, but calendars start with Sunday and in many languages the word for Saturday looks/sounds a lot like “Sabbath”.

Hmmmm...did we go rebel on that one? I’ll tell you what, man, that parable about the sower and the crows seems to be working OT in our times.

Every day I’m more and more convinced how much humans MUST have a few standards and definitions that we can’t change. We’re like little kids who have to mess with everything, but who can also rationalize anything.

Romans 1:18-32:
Willful self-determination > Wicked self-deception > Woeful self-destruction.

111 posted on 07/04/2018 9:23:50 AM PDT by GBA (Here in the matrix, merrily, merrily, life is but a dream)
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