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Lava from Hawaii volcano destroys up to 700 homes, and there's no end in sight
USA Today/MSN ^ | 6/12/2018 | Trevor Hughes

Posted on 06/12/2018 1:15:10 PM PDT by sodpoodle

Edited on 06/12/2018 1:26:24 PM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

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To: sodpoodle; Teflonic

IIRC, around 80% of the Kapoho and Vacationland homes were not primary residences, were vacation rentals. Owners could still lose their shirts if un/underinsured. But the good news us that there are fewer permanently displaced people to house and care for.


41 posted on 06/12/2018 2:09:53 PM PDT by mewzilla (Has the FBI been spying on members of Congress?)
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To: logi_cal869

Looks to me like HI used the area as ad hoc low/lower income housing. Now that decision is biting ill-prepared bureaucrats, residents, and taxpayers on the butt.


42 posted on 06/12/2018 2:12:27 PM PDT by mewzilla (Has the FBI been spying on members of Congress?)
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To: sodpoodle

Think of it this way: new beachfront property is being created at the going value of $100,000 per foot.


43 posted on 06/12/2018 2:14:47 PM PDT by Brilliant
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To: sodpoodle
These people lived in what is known as a "Lava risk zone 1". Pretty much no ins company will write policies there. A smaller flow nailed a town called Kalapana in 1990.

Ins companies took a big hit on Kalapana. I doubt much of anyone in Leilani Estates had ins.

Area known for meth production and lots of theft. Sort of like the Barstow, Calif. of Hawaii.

44 posted on 06/12/2018 2:16:13 PM PDT by doorgunner69 (Give me the liberty to take care of my own security..........)
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To: Governor Dinwiddie

“Hey Hey, Garner McKay, take us on the Leaky Tiki with you!”


46 posted on 06/12/2018 2:19:32 PM PDT by Conan the Librarian (The Best in Life is to crush my enemies, see them driven before me, and the Dewey Decimal System)
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To: mewzilla

News to me.

I view building on an active volcano like building in a flood zone.

It ain’t rocket science...


47 posted on 06/12/2018 2:21:02 PM PDT by logi_cal869 (-cynicus-)
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To: Teflonic
Here’s a shot I took from the lava field two years ago, well prior to this event. This is what starting over in Hawaii looks like. The lava field was marked out with white paint showing the boundaries and lot numbers so you knew where you could begin rebuilding. Note the lucky landowner in the background. It’s all real-estate. Sorry for the oversized image.

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48 posted on 06/12/2018 2:27:52 PM PDT by paulcissa (Democrats want you unarmed so they can kill you.)
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To: mewzilla
The state did not use it, people bought lots cheap from the original owner that subdivided his property. The decision to build was by the buyers, not the state.

Hawaii is not known for top teir intelligence on average:


49 posted on 06/12/2018 2:31:57 PM PDT by doorgunner69 (Give me the liberty to take care of my own security..........)
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To: SamAdams76

It is a beautiful place. Actually took a helicopter ride down into the crater that is now erupting. There were acres of what were once cane fields cover in black lava rock. And so it will be again. Paradise


50 posted on 06/12/2018 2:39:49 PM PDT by hoosiermama (When you open your heart to patriotism, there is no room for prejudice.DJT)
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To: Yo-Yo

Both ways it looks like a very bitey T-Rex!

Actually scarier in the right hand picture...it can hide in the jungle and jump out just when you think it’s safe!


51 posted on 06/12/2018 2:40:23 PM PDT by ExGeeEye (For dark is the suede that mows like a harvest.)
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To: doorgunner69

The state allowed people live/build/farm there. It didn’t require insurance. And the state did not have a contingency plan in place to deal with people who can’t afford to live anywhere else. Meanwhile, federal taxpayers will be on the hook for some of Hawaii’s stupidity.

http://www.staradvertiser.com/2018/06/12/hawaii-news/fema-getting-ready-to-offer-grants-up-to-34000/


52 posted on 06/12/2018 2:42:11 PM PDT by mewzilla (Has the FBI been spying on members of Congress?)
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To: edh

Lol. The methane would set off a chain reaction.


53 posted on 06/12/2018 2:45:18 PM PDT by dhs12345
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To: hoosiermama; SamAdams76

I had a buddy and his wife who took a helicopter tour over the really rugged and remote parts of the island, big parts of which were apparently owned by some very rich guy.

Their pilot was former Army, flew in Afghanistan, and in the video appeared to be a very rugged and good looking guy with a wry sense of humor...at one point he said “You want to see something really funny?”

When they said yes, he banked the helicopter and took it down lower....grinning from ear-to-ear, he pointed at a beach below and said “Hippies!”

Down below, they could see some naked people walking around on the beach...he said they bring some boats in, gather them all up, and take them out because they aren’t supposed to be there, but...they keep coming back!


54 posted on 06/12/2018 3:05:47 PM PDT by rlmorel (Leftists: They believe in the "Invisible Hand" only when it is guided by government.)
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To: sodpoodle

This HAS to be bho’s fault. (There is an unproven rumor that he was born there. And he’s done nothing to stop this.)


55 posted on 06/12/2018 3:08:20 PM PDT by Oscar in Batangas (12:01 PM 1/20/2017...The end of an error.)
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To: rlmorel

Our pilot was named Joyce. X Air Force. She said she just couldn’t leave after her tour was up. She asked if we wanted to get closer. So dipped down into the crater. All other passengers were white knuckling it. I got some fabulous shots. We had the tsunami night before. An earthquake when we reach Hilo The ride in helicopter and that night at dinner the kitchen caught fire in the cool beach restaurant we’d stopped at. What a day!


56 posted on 06/12/2018 3:16:55 PM PDT by hoosiermama (When you open your heart to patriotism, there is no room for prejudice.DJT)
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To: sodpoodle

Gee, I wonder if the US tax payer will end up paying for idiots who build houses on an active volcano?

I think we all know that answer.

JoMa


57 posted on 06/12/2018 3:29:24 PM PDT by joma89
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To: paulcissa

Oh wow! Thanks for that image, I had no idea. Here I was thinking the land would be totally unusable until sufficient erosion had taken place. Is there equipment that can grind down that lava field to level the ground? There must be mining machinery up to the task, could be a money opportunity to ship something like that over...


58 posted on 06/12/2018 3:30:51 PM PDT by Teflonic (tt)
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To: sodpoodle

No end in sight. Well, duh, the island is the volcano.


59 posted on 06/12/2018 5:08:06 PM PDT by bgill (CDC site, "We don't know how people are infected with Ebola.")
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To: hoosiermama

Hmm...earthquakes...tsunamis...fire in the kitchen...

“It’s her! Hoosiermama is the Jonah!!! Throw her out of the helicopter!”


60 posted on 06/12/2018 5:33:20 PM PDT by rlmorel (Leftists: They believe in the "Invisible Hand" only when it is guided by government.)
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