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Craig Sawyer. Former federal criminal investigator. Who is Lewis Arthur? Nobody quite knows the answer to that.

Unlike what was claimed a police investigation WAS done and concluded. Sawyer concluded the site was used for more than just a homeless camp. Since that time VOP made false claims and has tried to raise money from this event.

Three cops were already there when Veterans for Child Rescue (VfCR) arrived. Cops did two hour investigation. NO physical evidence was found.

VfCR had concerns. Story was then blown out of proportion by VoP. Tuscon police made 8+ trips to site and did investigation.

Claim that children were on site: false
Knife found: false.
Skeleton found at site: false. 20 miles away.
Shallow grave: false.
No investigation: false.
Many other claims: false.

Believe what you want. Was this a child trafficking site? Perhaps it was but the entire thing was overblown by a group and a person with VERY suspicious ties.

I believe Sawyer. If you want to believe Arthur go ahead. I’m sure he has a GoFundMe set up.

In the meantime real work is being done to expose real child predators.

Arthur isn’t new on the scene. He’s been around before.

https://voat.co/v/politics/2575747

Oh and there’s more on Arthur.

https://www.reddit.com/r/greatawakening/comments/8omzhk/who_is_lewis_arthur_the_man_in_the_vop_videos_who/

Claim that children were on site: false
Knife found: false.
Skeleton found at site: false. 20 miles away.
Shallow grave: false.
No investigation: false.
Many other claims: false.

Never heard that children were found at site. That point is irrelevant anyway. Never heard about a knife being found. Also, irrelevant. A body was found twenty miles away, as your guy admits. Was it a child's body? Was it along the route that would be the supposed "pipeline?"

A shallow grave isn't a grave unless a body or evidence of a body is found in it. What does that even mean? I already addressed the "two hour" local l.e. investigation the guy himself talked about. Your guy himself admits that it was "more than a homeless camp." What does that MEAN? And why doesn't he say why he thinks that? What is he not talking about? And why is he not talking about it?

He seems very eager to debunk this site and what it looks like. I agree with him that it looks like "more than a homeless camp."

And what of the property owners and their ties?

You and your guy don't address any of these issues, and blatantly so. Why? Explain the toys and furniture found in the hole in the ground. Explain the restraints found on the trees.

Believe what you want.

Thank you for your kind permission.

Was this a child trafficking site? Perhaps it was but the entire thing was overblown by a group and a person with VERY suspicious ties.

You concede that it was "perhaps" a child trafficking site but that it was "overblown." How can that be overblown?"

And as far as suspicious ties go, who cares who brings it to light. I'm more concerned about CEMEX and their suspicious ties. What say you, pouncer?

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Is Arthur the guy in the videos neonrevolt has been posting?

If so, he has stated he does not know this guy, but calls him “Red Beard. Many here regard NeonR as a pretty good source.

That said, why not just make your case initially, using words instead of only links. All you did to my view was to shove a youtube link at us with no explanation, and rage at ransomnote for spreading crap.

Instead of making a clear point, like you just did in the post I am replying to, you seem to have only vented a lot of spleen upon us, your team members, who are sincerely trying to learn what is happening. Try us. We really WOULD listen to you - if you don’t just initially come off as angry at us out of the blue - and especially angry at our Thread Head, Ransomnote.

I think if you had just simply told us the facts, as above, in a cool manner, we would not be talking about “pouncing parties” and the like. Most of us have GREAT respect for Craig Sawyer, and if you had simply told us that straight out, there would not be this POUNCING kerfuffle.

I wish you well, Snowy bear, and I enjoy your posts, but you give us very little credit to be able to understand it if there are issues with particular sources.

You are much better than that.

Sorta had a feeling that site was a setup to enable conspiracy theory label... A little too pat. The name ‘maddie’ scrawled across a branch - the children in that camp would have been kidnapped in Mexico. I wasn’t sure if VOP was legitimately convinced they were onto something, or crisis actors playing a role.