Posted on 06/06/2018 12:33:46 AM PDT by ransomnote
This thread is a friendly collaborative place for FReepers to analyze information and share opinons. FReepers have a wide variety of reasons for investigating Q Anon content; this is not the appropriate place to criticize or badger those who choose to use some of their time in this manner.
If you are new to Q Anon, the three links below provide overviews to help answer the questions, "Who is Q?" and "Why read Q drops?".
Q Anon: A Freeper's post re the "new Parallel Construct that Trump has created"
First post to Q ping list. Please read and let me know if you want off or on it
You can locate Q Anon threads by searching the key word "Qanon" using the search window in the upper right of Free Republic's forum page.
If you haven't seen it yet, President John F. Kennedy's excellent speech regarding secret societies, as well as comments about the press, is located at the following link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zdMbmdFOvTs
A helpful FReeper passed along the following Youtube link to a good source for concise reviewes of Q drops, Praying Medic:
https://www.youtube.com/user/prayingmedic/videos
Praying Medic also has a a Twitter account:
https://anonsw.github.io/qtmerge
Q "drops" (i.e., posts) can be read with their original formatting on various websites. Sometimes the Q drop websites come under cyber attack or stop updating. This week, I've been using the following link:
https://qanon.pub
Q drops (i.e., posts) often use unfamiliar acronyms. Swordmaker maintains a list of acronymsto help FReepers understand Q drop text. The master list of acronyms is stored on Swordmaker's profile page. It's really great to have a convenient place to find definitions and explanations of terms used in the drops. Here is the link:
http://www.freerepublic.com/~swordmaker/index
Within our threads, Swordmaker posts updates featuring the latest terms added to the lexicon - you can find his updates on threads by looking for this silver Q graphic:
SkyPilot has been collecting Q Anon information into one interesting, detailed, "story of Q" post which I'll place here:
https://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3633313/posts?page=163#163
Here's a handy link for those who would like to read what people on Twitter are Tweeting about Q Anon:
Click to read what Tweeters are saying about Q Anon
For those who want a little uplifting video which outlines the big picture that we are now striving for, here's a video from 2016 in which candidate Donald Trump outlines what he wants for Americans and America and his promises if elected.
This Video Will Get Donald Trump Elected
If you'd like to communicate your support for President Trump's efforts to "red-pill" Americans, you may want to use the link Hoosiermama posted which provides you with and email page - you can send the president an email. Here's the link:
Email support for President Trump
Bentonite for drilling mud comes from Wyoming.
Dominoes! Q bringing the pain!
Feinstein resigned from “ranking member” position in the Intelligence Committee (SSCI). She remains a member, just not the top dog for her party, in that committee.
...and it is interesting this dropped AFTER DF won in the primary on Tuesday by an overwhelming number. This is not the first fissure in her hold.
winning
Wonder who.... er.... I mean what they were eating?
Yeah, I’ve been watching a pattern of disruption here. Several are still actively attempting to disrupt in any way possible. Since JimRob was forced to lay down the law here recently they are trying to act innocent.
Best to just ignore the ignoramuses.
SS1
Never cared for him. Reddit Anons has dug up a lot of stuff on him.
Wow!
That’s a lot there!
For a second there, he looked like Scott Bakula of the NCIS-New Orleans show.
Probably good advice that can be generalized beyond FR!
See 714, immediately following your post.
My idea is to provide something with rigorous criteria that is more objective than the rumors and claims that fill these threads, not that their is anything wrong with those. I enjoy reading them as much as anyone. Some of them are pretty ridiculous, some are quite sane.
I have admitted to being a Q skeptic, and noting that in my opinion most of the predictions made by he and his interpreters have failed to materialize.
Rather than belabor that point, which irritates a lot of people here, I have chosen to try to provide something interesting that provides a complimentary secondary way of looking at what is going on.
Hopefully within every 1,500 response thread there is a place for touching base with some simple raw numbers. That is all I am providing.
I don't really have a "narrative", I have a metric.
If I were to construct a narrative around it, it would be:
So far Mueller is doing a better job of impugning Trump that Team Trump is doing of impugning Mueller and his fellow tormentors.This is not unexpected. Team Trump started second and is moving slower. Over time this may change, as events accelerate. But so far Mueller appears to have a significant advantage in getting actual indictments, and guilty pleas.
Currently we are in a stagnant period of both investigations, at least as made visible by indictments.
Now, in your criticism of me you cite the litany of things that you say I am ignoring:
...such as Trump has no arrest or prosecutorial powers outside the DOJ. Trump must wait for process. Mueller ignores the regulations of the DOJ and bulls his way through. . . to get bogus guilty pleas on process crimes after bankrupting defendants.. . .OK, yes, I am ignoring some of those things.Or indicting foreign nationals for alleged international actions taken (posting ads on a Facebook, an international business from a location outside the US) outside his jurisdiction which no one can credibly point to a statute prohibiting them doing.
Not because they don't agree with my narrative, but because they are not the metrics I have chosen. I did not choose the metrics I did: public firings, indictments, guilty pleas and convictions - because they support a narrative, I chose them because they are the least ambiguous things I could come up with.
And, by the way, I did try to take into consideration a couple things that piss you off about Mueller. I do not provide any points for the indictment of foreigners who are unlikely every to appear in US courts. ZERO points. That is an adjustment, an attempt to address that ridiculous behavior of Mueller.
I also have given the "lying to the FBI" charge a lower score to address your "process crimes" criticism of Mueller. So, the points scale does attempt to weight the facts in the best way I can, and the weighting actually favors Trump, or at least treats some of Mueller's more extravagant proprietorial behavior with a lot of skepticism as to it's value.
It's like a sporting event. The fans of both teams may know in advance that there are all sorts of reasons why it's going to be very hard for the Lions to beat Green Bay.
They have lost their quarterback, they have lost their best receiver, 1/2 of their offensive line are out with injuries, they have the worst kicker in the NFL, their head coach just had a heart attack and the defensive coordinator has been arrested, so the entire game much be carried on the back of the offensive coordinator, who was a college coach until a month ago.
Then you have the game. It stands outside all the pre-existing conditions, the unfairness of circumstance, and the only thing that matters in the end is the number of points scored. Maybe the Lions overcome their disadvantages, maybe they don't. Someone wins, someone looses.
It is my contention that, eventually, Trump must strike back, and that anything less than indictments, guilty please and convictions is insufficient to establish Trump's narrative (shared by most people here, including me) that the Deep State is trying to remove Trump with a soft coup.
It is my contention that to survive he must deconstruct Mueller (who is surely going to eventually try to deliver the coup-d'grace to Trump via either direct indictment or a report suggesting impeachment) with unambiguous facts. Not rumors, not long articles in obscure web publications, not cryptic postings in haiku by a claimed secret agent. But simple hard facts that can not be denied.
The same kind Mueller is trying to collect.
Trump's best (and perhaps only) defense at that point will be a long string of indictments, guilty pleas, firings-for-cause, and convictions of those around Mueller, those in the FBI and DOJ, and both Clinton and Obama teams.
I think these events are vital, I think they are unambiguous, and so I continue to think it's worthwhile to track them.
Of course you are free to disagree, but I think you are accusing me of doing exactly what I say I am doing, but maybe haven't explained very well. So, I've tried here to do a better job.
Verifiable Event Based
Scoring of Mueller vs. Team Trump
JB EVENT-POINT SYSTEM | |
EVENT | POINTS |
---|---|
Public Firing for Cause | 1 |
Indictmnet for Lying | 2 |
Indictment for Actual Crime | 3 |
Guilty Plea or Conviction, Lying | 3 |
Conviction for Actual Crime | 5 |
Indictment of Russians in Russia | zero |
TEAM | EVENT | RESULT | SCORE |
---|---|---|---|
Mueller | Flynn | Guilty Plea | 3 |
Mueller | Papadapolis | Guilty Plea | 3 |
Mueller | Gates | Guilty Pleas | 3 |
Mueller | Evgeny Freidman | Guilty Plea | 3 |
Mueller | Alex Van Der Zwaan | Guilty Plea | 3 |
Mueller | Manaforte | Indicted for Actual Crime | 2 |
Mueller | Pichard Pinedo, | Guilty Plea, forgery | 5 |
Mueller | 13 Russians | Indicted, in Russia | 0 |
Mueller | 2 Russian Companies | Indicted, in Russia | 0 |
Mueller | Concorde Consulting | Indicted, in USA | 3 |
Trump | McCabe | Publie Firing | 1 |
Trump | James A Wolfe | Indicted for Lying to FBI | 2 |
Score | |
Team Tump | 3 |
Team Mueller | 25 |
Interesting theory on Reddit. Jessie Ventura once said something like, I wish we could line up all of Congress and have Ron Paul point out the crooks. Hmmm.....
Would you mind letting others link to that? If not, maybe you could put it on your FR homepage as well. It really is oustanding, the only categories that I was going to have that you dont have is office/home/bank of person or their personal lawyer raided.
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