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Why It’s Very Difficult For Men And Women To Just Be Friends
The Federalist ^ | 5-29-18 | Wendy Wilson

Posted on 05/29/2018 10:14:29 PM PDT by DeweyCA

The perennial question of whether men and women can be just friends is finding new life among evangelical Christians. Evangelical author Aimee Byrd is promoting intimate friendships between opposite-sex Christians as a way to bond spiritually while modeling for the world that men and women can be close without having to worry about bad behavior and harassment claims.

Byrd has written a series of blog posts on the topic and promises to elaborate in her new book “Why Can’t We Be Friends? Avoidance Is Not Purity,” set to be released in late June. Not surprisingly, Byrd is no fan of the Mike Pence rule, which as practiced by the vice president means he won’t dine alone with a woman who is not his wife nor attend events serving alcohol unless she is with him. The rule is similar to practices the late evangelist Billy Graham, Christian pastors, business leaders, and others have used for years.

Echoing feminist critics of the rule, Byrd wrote in a recent article for First Things that the Pence rule has a “basis in fear” and “calls us to a kind of avoidance that will never comprehend purity.” Byrd’s article starts by detailing newly disclosed allegations of sexual abuse against megachurch pastor Bill Hybels.

But she doesn’t consider that abiding by the Pence rule may have spared Hybels from the trouble he’s in now. Instead, Byrd warns against “putting up fences” and tells men and women to practice Christian love. If you’re pure in heart and spiritually mature, you won’t go astray, her theory goes, ignoring the all-too-painful truth that those who fancy themselves above temptation are especially vulnerable to it.

Just Friend-Zone Everyone, and Then You’re Safe. Byrd believes love between opposite-sex Christians should mimic close relationships between biological siblings. For her, the biblical exhortation to love one another as brothers and sisters in Christ is not just metaphorical. Her unique interpretation has justifiably met with criticism. G. Shane Morris notes that the brother-sister metaphor is one of many in the Bible “meant to deepen our understanding of a single theological reality: our union with Christ and consequent union with one another in Him. To use them in ways not explicit (or at least implicit) in their context is to mishandle Scripture.”

Byrd has favorably compared spending time alone with her biological brother, which poses no threat to her marriage, to time opposite-sex Christian friends spend alone. Even though Byrd nuances her description by saying she doesn’t routinely meet alone with her brother, she misses the larger issue.

Biological siblings have a shared history and know each other’s likes and dislikes, their hopes and fears, and sometimes details of their brightest and darkest moments. For them, sex is never even potentially on the table. When platonic friends begin to build a history and share intimately, however, things can get dicey even if they don’t see each other daily, because as Harry and Sally showed us, the sex part gets in the way.

Emotional Intimacy Is Connected to Physical Intimacy. At the end of the classic movie “When Harry Met Sally,” the two singles end up happily married. But in real life, countless singles and marrieds have realized too late the pain that comes from oversharing emotionally and spiritually with someone they are not meant to be with. Has Byrd not heard of “emotional affairs”? Damaging in and of themselves, they can lead to inappropriate sexual relationships that further inflict pain on one’s self and others.

In my own life as a single, my intimate friendships with single men have ended amid confusion and heartache. But they needed to end, because without a commitment toward something greater, there was no room for the emotional and spiritual closeness to grow in a way that was truly satisfying. Marriage is about more than physical intimacy. It also is for emotional and spiritual intimacy, an intimacy that a platonic friendship can’t sustain.

We may not want sexual tension to be a feature of our lives as men and women, and we may think we can erase it by operating on a higher spiritual plane, but that’s not reality. God made us the way he did for a reason, and that means properly ordering our relationships. I’ve realized the necessity of limiting the amount of time I spend alone with single men if we aren’t dating, and I can’t fathom why I would call up or text a married man at church to see if he wants to hang out at the park to catch up on our lives. That’s what biological siblings do, not what opposite-sex metaphorical siblings in Christ should feel pressured to do.

This Doesn’t Mean No Friendship, Only Give It Parameters. Does this mean that I don’t have male friends, that I avoid men? Hardly. It’s not like there are only two choices here: intimate friendships or avoidance. Men and women can and do easily become friends primarily in group settings at church and elsewhere. There’s no need to become as emotionally close as a biological or adopted brother and sister to see these friendships as enriching.

Byrd writes, “The church has tried to be a godly voice in the midst of a world seduced by the sexual revolution. But often, the church has swung the pendulum too far to the opposite extreme, also over-sexualizing men and women, by imposing guidelines on not only friendship between the sexes, but even on acquaintanceship.”

While I can think of one or two cases of overreaction I’ve come across, and while I’ve read about stringent protocols in fringe fundamentalist groups, I hardly see this as a crisis in the mainstream. As a longtime regular churchgoer, and as someone who has lived in the Bible Belt for nearly 20 years, I’ve never known of serious problems between Christian men and women interacting in groups at church events, Bible studies, or out socially.

Some of the more extreme examples that Byrd strains to characterize as commonplace, such as admonitions against sharing an elevator with the opposite sex, I’m not familiar with at all. The problems I am aware of tend to be those that result from a lack of boundaries, not too many of them.

As for men who follow the Pence rule, it’s grossly unfair to portray them as having unreasonable hang-ups that cause them to want to avoid women. Setting guidelines for specific circumstances does not amount to carving the opposite sex out of your life completely. A follower of the Pence rule might decline lunch alone with a woman, but gladly catch up with her at a group event.

The Pence rule and similar boundaries aren’t about avoiding women entirely, they’re about avoiding situations that can put both men and women in awkward, potentially compromising situations. While I don’t follow a female version of the Pence rule to the letter, I wouldn’t be offended if a man—be he a co-worker, boss, or fellow church member—worked around meeting alone with me or invited a third person to lunch or dinner. If women want to be better friends with men, we need to show greater appreciation for where they’re coming from, and not be so quick to view the boundaries they set as a personal slight or a slight against women.

Safeguards Against Danger Are Simply Prudent. Byrd doesn’t seem to want to give men a say if their perspective contradicts hers, nor does she seem willing to give women who support measures like the Pence rule a fair hearing. Like secular feminists, she is adamant that such safeguards objectify women, reducing them to temptresses while reducing men to predators.

But scandals in Hollywood, Washington DC, and evangelical churches should tell us it’s wise to be on alert for those with less than pure motives, and to guard ourselves and others against temptations before we learn the hard way we or they can’t bear them. In addition, setting boundaries isn’t solely about preventing the worst-case scenarios that lead to adultery or land people in jail or plastered all over the news. It’s also about preventing intimacies with others that can tear at a marriage and leave singles feeling rudderless.

In her lofty theorizing, Byrd isn’t concerned enough about the real-life effects of what she’s proposing and the various ways it could go wrong. She writes, “Dealing with the sin in our own hearts, confessing temptations, offering them to God, and choosing obedience and holy, purifying love is much more difficult than avoiding people. Challenges should not be ignored. But they don’t mean we aren’t called to intimate sibling communion with one another. They just mean that we need to grow.”

In acknowledging the challenges, Byrd shared about a time she cautioned her husband about a woman she thought had more than friendship with him in mind. If only that would have inspired in Byrd a greater sensitivity toward tensions between men and women on a broader scale, and more circumspection before recommending intimate sibling communion for spiritual growth. Instead, we’re left mostly with feminist-like anger over common-sense boundaries that served many people well for ages but in more recent years have been coming undone.

Wendy Wilson is a teacher and writer in Nashville. She has a master’s degree in intercultural studies from Union University in Jackson, Tennessee.


TOPICS: Society
KEYWORDS: aimeebyrd; dating; friend; friends; friendship; genderwars; infatuation; men; sex; sexes; whenharrymetsally; women
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To: DeweyCA
"So, if you think you are standing firm, be careful that you don’t fall!"     --1 Corinthians 10:12

Pence, Billy Graham, and others are taking a Biblical approach. They humbly recognize that about the time a person begins to believe in their "purity of heart and spiritual maturity" to keep them from sin, that's when they may be most vulnerable. Give Aimee Byrd a couple years, and odds are, her spouse is going to be "shocked" to discover she's just as vulnerable as everyone else. I pray that's not the case, for her family's sake, but she's playing with fire.

61 posted on 05/30/2018 6:31:53 AM PDT by Hoffer Rand (God be greater than the worries in my life, be stronger than the weakness in my mind, be magnified.)
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To: DeweyCA

bookmarking for later.

In brief, I think both sides need to walk on eggshells with their comments. I’ve had friendships with the opposite sex that were not the least bit sexualized even when we were alone together then there are other situations when the slightest suggestion could have pushed me into desiring more.

We live in a hypersexualized environment where the culture turns women into objects, despite what feminists claim to want. IMO, there was a correlation of the rise of sexual harassment laws and the rise of strip clubs - men needing an outlet where it was safe to have sexy banter with flirtatious women so long as it didn’t go too far.

I do know that, as a batchelor who works in a predominantly male business, I thirst for female interraction. I reject segregated men’s only groups because I want to hear a woman’s viewpoint and thoughts on various topics so I can weight them with my own.


62 posted on 05/30/2018 6:48:36 AM PDT by OrangeHoof (CNN - the most busted name in news.)
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To: sauropod

” It’s too easy for a false accusation to be leveled.”

There it is. One (false) accusation can destroy an organization - or a life.


63 posted on 05/30/2018 7:26:03 AM PDT by jonno (Having an opinion is not the same as having the answer...)
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To: wardaddy

Woa there, buddy. You’re acting as if I accused you of adultery. I just made a light-hearted remark about the nature of some women.


64 posted on 05/30/2018 8:46:39 AM PDT by Flaming Conservative ((Pray without ceasing))
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To: DeweyCA

Sex....will ruin most “friendships”...


65 posted on 05/30/2018 9:08:28 AM PDT by trebb (I stopped picking on the mentally ill hypocrite<i> Yet anoths who pose as conservatives...mostly ;-})
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To: Flaming Conservative; Yaelle

Maybe not you but my comments on this thread provoke this arcane reasoning that duh an old man shouldn’t talk to attractive women especially if young cause Lordy they could be conniving vixens or I could go weak to their expected charms since they simply must seduce some not so handsome thirty pounds overweight hair loss grandpa

That’s just ridiculous scorning from sad glass half empty people....this is not new btw

It’s like some Hester Prynne freak show here at times

Scold scold scold especially about sex and beauty

It’s depressing

My point and I’ll stick to it is that when old and after years of a faithful marriage talking to attractive women is easy cause it’s not sexual no matter how beautiful they are

It’s just different

But no ....

preachers here gotta preach

You lighthearted

Others not so much


66 posted on 05/30/2018 9:26:11 AM PDT by wardaddy (Hanged not hung.)
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To: ealgeone

Indeed you get it

It could be a struggle when young unless the girl showed strong interest which is really what made things always happen

Not my charm or good looks


67 posted on 05/30/2018 9:30:29 AM PDT by wardaddy (Hanged not hung.)
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To: jonno

Agreed.
Integrity and Virginity; once lost are gone forever...


68 posted on 05/30/2018 10:03:31 AM PDT by Delmarksman (Pro 2A Anglican American (Ford and Chevy kill more people than guns do, lets ban them))
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To: HombreSecreto

ruined her cute looks


69 posted on 05/30/2018 10:44:39 AM PDT by Vendome (I've Gotta Be Me https://youtu.be/wH-pk2vZGw2M)
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To: Yaelle

I’ve got some women as friends...annoying creatures.


70 posted on 05/30/2018 10:45:40 AM PDT by Pelham (California, a subsidiary of Mexico, Inc.)
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To: DeweyCA

Folks have touched on it, and really hit it, regarding “integrity” with the Billy Graham post. Gotta run, and didn’t read every post, but didn’t see this, which is all I need to make sure I use the Pence/Graham rule:

1 Thessalonians 5:22
Abstain from all appearance of evil.


71 posted on 05/30/2018 1:15:58 PM PDT by HeadOn (Funny how common sense works when you try it.)
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To: Susquehanna Patriot

For later


72 posted on 05/31/2018 4:39:14 AM PDT by Susquehanna Patriot (Do Leftist/Liberals Really Believe That Dissent = Highest Form of Patriotism?)
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To: Secret Agent Man

+1000


73 posted on 04/27/2019 3:15:58 PM PDT by Bikkuri
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