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Microsoft gives users options for Office data slurpage – Basic or Full (but no "None" option)
The Register ^ | May 24, 2018 | Richard Speed

Posted on 05/24/2018 10:28:16 AM PDT by dayglored

Would you like to send all or some telemetry back to the Windows goliath?

Microsoft is rolling out an update to Office products to introduce Windows 10-style telemetry data slurping. Or rather the software business has made it very clear to users it is doing so and they cannot opt out.

With a certain piece of European legislation around the corner concerning privacy, the timing is interesting to say the least.

El Reg was last week informed by a reader that the standalone version of Word 2016 had begun displaying a message forcing users to “Share how you use Office” with options to send Full or Basic diagnostic data back to Microsoft's servers in a manner very reminiscent of Windows 10.

Users have been only able to select one option or the other.

Complaints then surfaced on Twitter that the same thing had begun appearing on the macOS version of the productivity suite.

Microsoft Word 2016 for MAC, no option to send NO diagnostic data. WHY @Office #privacy pic.twitter.com/UrcnKn94Z8 — Primary Technologies (@PrimaryTechCom) May 18, 2018

A page on the support website for Office explained the logging levels. The Basic level collects and phones home to Redmond enough data to keep the Office apps up to date as well as lobbing simple crash dumps at the IT giant. The Full level does a bit more, giving Microsoft carte blanche to nag helpfully inform users about functions and features that might be of interest.

Microsoft, via its support website, was at pains to point out that no personal data has been deliberately collected, and there is no way to identify a netizen from the slurped information.

However, to muddy the waters, it doesn’t appear that all Word users are being offered the choice.

Microsoft has stated on its support site that the options are set during installation and can then be changed between Basic and Full using Office’s Privacy Options. However, users are reportedly being forced to make the choice on already installed applications while others (including El Reg) are not seeing the options at all, regardless of application build number.

Word 2016 Trust Center

The shiny new Trust Center

With Windows 10 not offering users an opt-out from diagnostic data reporting, it shouldn't shock users to see a similar feature making an appearance in Office. What is more surprising is that the pop-ups have only just begun appearing.

Word 2016 Old Trust Center

The Trust Center in the pre-sharing and caring age

The Register took a long look at the XML spat out by Microsoft's Diagnostic Data Viewer and could see no evidence of Word showing its derriere to Redmond. Of course, there is no guarantee that the Office slurpage will even be viewable.

El Reg asked Microsoft when the feature began to roll-out and if the thinking was to bring Office into line with the diagnostic policies of Windows 10. A Microsoft spokesperson responded after eight days with:

As you use Office, we collect diagnostic information that helps us find and address issues, improve our products and services, and provide you with customized experiences. For more information around how we protect your data you can visit the new privacy dashboard (https://account.microsoft.com/privacy).

We've asked for some more clarification and will update if anything is forthcoming from the Office behemoth. ®


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Computers/Internet; Hobbies
KEYWORDS: office; privacy; windows; windowspinglist
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To: dayglored

FrogDad bought me a BigMac. I used it for 6 months and could NOT get used to Apples backwards icons and it didn’t have a database I could use. Apparently, Apple folks don’t Database. Every new thing I did was a painful spelunking adventure. After 6 months, I went to FrogDad and confessed that I wanted a Windows box back. The new computer had Win 10.

I’d get everything set up the way I wanted it, it would do an update and EVERY time SOMETHING would no longer work. The back-breaking straw was when our family calendar that we shared would no longer share. We futzed around for 6 months and finally got the auto-updates turned off so it’d quit changing my crap.

The other day, I wanted a timer, went to the MS Apps store to find a timer. It wouldn’t let me download a little app from their store because I have auto-updates turned off.

I HATE Microshaft!!

*sigh*


21 posted on 05/24/2018 12:45:58 PM PDT by FrogMom (Time marches on...)
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To: bgill
B&H Photo in NYC has new Win 7 computers for sale.

Link.

22 posted on 05/24/2018 12:49:31 PM PDT by upchuck (The problem: parents doing their careers instead of raising their kids. h/t: Wyrd bið ful aræd)
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To: FrogMom

See reply 22.


23 posted on 05/24/2018 12:51:01 PM PDT by upchuck (The problem: parents doing their careers instead of raising their kids. h/t: Wyrd bið ful aræd)
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To: dayglored
Still happy I kicked MS to the curb 6 years ago.

Life is great without them 😊

24 posted on 05/24/2018 1:17:24 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (Q is Admiral Michael S. Rogers)
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To: dayglored

What about for companies that use a firewall ?

Does the info get sent back then also ?


25 posted on 05/24/2018 1:31:59 PM PDT by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57, returning after lurking since 2000)
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To: upchuck

Gonna be sold out & backordered 3 to 6 months, I bet.


26 posted on 05/24/2018 1:34:38 PM PDT by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57, returning after lurking since 2000)
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To: upchuck

WOW, have you seen their prices!!!!


27 posted on 05/24/2018 2:03:01 PM PDT by bgill (CDC site, "We don't know how people are infected with Ebola.")
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To: Still Thinking
One does not simply sent telemetry data to Mordor

LOL

28 posted on 05/24/2018 2:19:47 PM PDT by zeugma (Power without accountability is fertilizer for tyranny.)
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To: dayglored

“As you use Office, we collect diagnostic information that helps us find and address issues, improve our products and services”

Then why do we still have bugs 23 years later in Windows?
Why does Microsoft ignore complaints from the users?
Why are updates so large? What do they really contain?
Is the file size to mask uploading your files vs downloading software updates?

Death to Word
http://www.slate.com/articles/technology/technology/2012/04/microsoft_word_is_cumbersome_inefficient_and_obsolete_it_s_time_for_it_to_die_.html


29 posted on 05/24/2018 2:43:27 PM PDT by minnesota_bound
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To: upchuck

I gotta check out Navigator Utilities, thanks!


30 posted on 05/24/2018 3:14:56 PM PDT by ducttape45 ("Righteousness exalteth a nation; but sin is a reproach to any people." Proverbs 14:34)
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To: upchuck

I still use Windows 7 and Office 2010, but I have Windows XP with Office 2003 dual-booted on this same hard drive and I still love to go back to it. I’m gonna install the Navigator Utilities and check it out. Though I use the Quick Access Toolbar I’ll use NU if it helps makes things easier.


31 posted on 05/24/2018 3:19:11 PM PDT by ducttape45 ("Righteousness exalteth a nation; but sin is a reproach to any people." Proverbs 14:34)
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To: upchuck

#19 Microsoft is also testing RENTING Windows 10 too.
If that happens I will switch to Linux.


32 posted on 05/24/2018 3:35:54 PM PDT by minnesota_bound
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To: minnesota_bound
Then why do we still have bugs 23 years later in Windows?

Oh, because they regrettably (to them) neglected to spy on you for the last 8 versions of Winders. Or something.

33 posted on 05/24/2018 4:13:35 PM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: null and void

What is not mandated, is prohibited!


34 posted on 05/24/2018 4:14:29 PM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: WildHighlander57
> What about for companies that use a firewall ? Does the info get sent back then also ?

Depends on the rules in the firewall. Blocking access to all of Microsoft’s distributed network of servers, without blocking other internet access, is quite tricky. Their IP ranges can change at any time.

My guess is that Windows would refuse to function correctly if it finds it cannot contact Microsoft for a long enough time period.

After all, you must have your Windows Updates...

35 posted on 05/24/2018 4:27:25 PM PDT by dayglored ("Listen. Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government.")
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To: minnesota_bound
Microsoft is also testing RENTING Windows 10 too.

Yeppers. I've read about that. MSFT has a problem: after they've saturated the world with their software, which has pretty much happened, what do they do for a revenue stream?

Answer: Rent their software.

36 posted on 05/24/2018 5:10:47 PM PDT by upchuck (The problem: parents doing their careers instead of raising their kids. h/t: Wyrd bið ful aræd)
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To: goodnesswins
give me a one sentence explanation

Libre Office is free, easy to use, does not spy on you, will run on Linux if you dump Windows, and is usually good enough.

37 posted on 05/24/2018 5:20:15 PM PDT by TChad
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