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1 posted on 05/24/2018 7:31:11 AM PDT by BenLurkin
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To: BenLurkin
The EmDrive really shouldn't work.

And it doesn't. Newton got it right it seems.

2 posted on 05/24/2018 7:39:08 AM PDT by Magnum44 (My comprehensive terrorism plan: Hunt them down and kill them)
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It’s amazing how well experimental verification works to weed out false claims.

It’s not a coincidence, IMO, that today’s scientific establishment seems to prefer experiments that cannot be independently verified because they are too expensive to reproduce.


4 posted on 05/24/2018 7:44:52 AM PDT by thoughtomator (Number of arrested coup conspirators to date: 0)
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I suspect this will be studied for a long time by Garage physicists for a long time, like Cold Fusion.


5 posted on 05/24/2018 7:47:27 AM PDT by Paradox (Don't call them mainstream, there is nothing mainstream about the MSM.)
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To: BenLurkin
Right up there with the Improbability Drive


6 posted on 05/24/2018 7:50:52 AM PDT by rjsimmon (The Tree of Liberty Thirsts)
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To: BenLurkin
Everybody is missing the obvious. Global Warming caused the EmDrive to fail. The pie chart below proves this.


7 posted on 05/24/2018 7:50:54 AM PDT by Leaning Right (I have already previewed or do not wish to preview this composition.)
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“That interaction is likely between EmDrive power cables and Earth’s magnetic field, the team concluded.”

Why couldn’t that be measured as the equal and opposite reaction?

One day chemical propulsion will ne obsolete.

5.56mm


9 posted on 05/24/2018 7:55:50 AM PDT by M Kehoe (THIS SPACE FOR RENT)
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Maybe they should try a BM drive. That is one powerful force.


10 posted on 05/24/2018 7:56:36 AM PDT by fwdude (History has no 'sides;' you're thinking of geometry.)
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I am not a physicist, but I did stay at a Holi.....nevermind.

I have often wondered if science is correct about either/or gravity being a constant or the speed of light being a constant throughout the Universe. (WHAT!!!?????) I think we have either one or both of these wrong.

Science says gravity can affect the trajectory of light, but light has no mass. (Black Hole Theories). Is that not a contradiction in science?

So..... Science knows there is something missing in the understanding of gravity. We think we can verify it as a constant related to mass in our own neighborhood. But we know something else affects it in places we can’t quite touch or taste (dark matter, dark energy, anti-matter, etc.)

I speculate (not hypothesize) that gravity can somehow be manipulated so that it’s “waves” or “influence” can be changes as it relates to the mass of an object. That would be important if we were going to find a completely new source of energy and/or propulsion in space.

But Light? Does light have mass that should be affected by gravity. If so, then mass “can” be accelerated to speed of light. If that is true, than mass should be able to exceed the speed of light.

I am sure I am not the first to consider this conflict. I am willing to bet there are some FReepers that can explain why I am a kook. ;o) Fire away.


11 posted on 05/24/2018 7:58:16 AM PDT by Tenacious 1
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But NASA probably got 100M to study the problem.
So its ok then.


17 posted on 05/24/2018 8:20:47 AM PDT by Zathras
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To: BenLurkin

Fine, then lets invent the magnetic field cable trust engine.


19 posted on 05/24/2018 8:34:54 AM PDT by DannyTN
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If something can’t work, then it doesn’t. In other words, if there’s an unassailable principle, and you try to do something that violates the principle, it won’t work.

Principle: energy can neither be created nor destroyed; rather, it can only be transformed from one form to another.

So if you try to get energy from nothing, you will not get any energy. Doesn’t matter if you yell and scream, or write scholarly papers, you will not get any energy from nothing.


21 posted on 05/24/2018 8:40:34 AM PDT by I want the USA back (Voltaire: To learn who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize.)
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To: BenLurkin
Odd, it looks like it should work...


23 posted on 05/24/2018 8:48:53 AM PDT by Yo-Yo (Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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"The EmDrive, which was originally developed by British scientist Roger Shawyer in the early 2000s, purportedly generates thrust by bouncing microwaves around inside a conical chamber. Because the engine doesn't require any fuel, it could theoretically make spaceflight far cheaper and more efficient, opening the heavens to exploration"

24 posted on 05/24/2018 8:55:15 AM PDT by ETL (Obama-Hillary, REAL Russia collusion! Uranium-One Deal, Missile Defense, Iran Deal, Nukes: Click ETL)
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So, launch one and take it to space, and test it there. See if there is ‘thrust’, or if the now labeled “illusion of thrust” is caused by “interaction is likely between EmDrive power cables and Earth’s magnetic field, the team concluded”.

Simple enough answer - test it out, in space, away from the Earth’s magnetic field.


32 posted on 05/24/2018 10:35:46 AM PDT by ro_dreaming (Chesterton, 'Christianity has not been tried and found wanting. It's been found hard and not tried')
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Toldja!


34 posted on 05/24/2018 12:47:59 PM PDT by Mr. Blond
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There are several articles on this and at least one says the results are inconclusive until someone makes a shield that prevents interaction with the Earth.


39 posted on 05/25/2018 1:42:15 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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So, we just need something the mass of earth to take with us when we go.

That should be easy.


40 posted on 05/25/2018 2:28:53 AM PDT by Vermont Lt
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