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To: gr8eman

“Nazi’s were far left, to say the least. “

Bull shit. After WW1 there was a life and death struggle between the communists and the NSDAP as to who would rule Germany. The communists...the left...lost. Whatever you want to call the NSDAP they sure as hell weren’t left in the same sense as the reds.


11 posted on 05/24/2018 7:51:19 AM PDT by Bonemaker (invictus maneo)
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To: Bonemaker

“Nazi’s were far left, to say the least. “

Bull shit. After WW1 there was a life and death struggle between the communists and the NSDAP as to who would rule Germany. The communists...the left...lost. Whatever you want to call the NSDAP they sure as hell weren’t left in the same sense as the reds.
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Both parties were leftists. The reds were further left. The difference between them was that the Nazi allowed for privately held large companies whereas the communists did not. Beyond that both were dicatorial, and both slaughtered millions. The reds killed more as they did in china under mao and in cambodia under pol pot.


13 posted on 05/24/2018 8:01:42 AM PDT by ckilmer (q e)
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To: Bonemaker

it was the great achievement of the Frankfurt School in the 1940’s at american universities to claim that the nazis were rightists rather than just another leftist group.


14 posted on 05/24/2018 8:03:50 AM PDT by ckilmer (q e)
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To: Bonemaker

Bull shit. The National SOCIALISTS were most definitely on the left. They weren’t the same Left as the Commies but they were on the Left.

“There is more that binds us to Bolshevism than separates us from it. There is, above all, genuine, revolutionary feeling, which is alive everywhere in Russia except where there are Jewish Marxists. I have always made allowance for this circumstance, and given orders that former Communists are to be admitted to the party at once. The petit bourgeois Social-Democrat and the trade-union boss will never make a National Socialist, but the Communists always will.” Adolf Hitler

“Of what importance is all that, if I range men firmly within a discipline they cannot escape? Let them own land or factories as much as they please. The decisive factor is that the State, through the Party, is supreme over them regardless of whether they are owners or workers. All that is unessential; our socialism goes far deeper. It establishes a relationship of the individual to the State, the national community. Why need we trouble to socialize banks and factories? We socialize human beings.” Adolf Hitler

“The first duty of every citizen must be to work mentally or physically. The activities of the individual may not clash with the interests of the whole, but must proceed within the frame of the community and be for the general good.

Therefore we demand:

11. That all unearned income, and all income that does not arise from work, be abolished.

12. Since every war imposes on the people fearful sacrifices in life and property, all personal profit arising from the war must be regarded as a crime against the people. We therefore demand the total confiscation of all war profits whether in assets or material.

13. We demand the nationalization of businesses which have been organized into cartels.

14. We demand that all the profits from wholesale trade shall be shared out.

15. We demand extensive development of provision for old age.

16. We demand the creation and maintenance of a healthy middle-class, the immediate communalization of department stores which will be rented cheaply to small businessmen, and that preference shall be given to small businessmen for provision of supplies needed by the State, the provinces and municipalities.

17. We demand a land reform in accordance with our national requirements, and the enactment of a law to confiscate from the owners without compensation any land needed for the common purpose. The abolition of ground rents, and the prohibition of all speculation in land.”
-Adolf Hitler

Hitler was named “Man of the Year” in 1938 by Time Magazine. They noted Hitler’s anti-capitalistic economic policies:

“Most cruel joke of all, however, has been played by Hitler & Co. on those German capitalists and small businessmen who once backed National Socialism as a means of saving Germany’s bourgeois economic structure from radicalism. The Nazi credo that the individual belongs to the state also applies to business. Some businesses have been confiscated outright, on other what amounts to a capital tax has been levied. Profits have been strictly controlled. Some idea of the increasing Governmental control and interference in business could be deduced from the fact that 80% of all building and 50% of all industrial orders in Germany originated last year with the Government. Hard-pressed for food- stuffs as well as funds, the Nazi regime has taken over large estates and in many instances collectivized agriculture, a procedure fundamentally similar to Russian Communism.”(Source: Time Magazine; Jaunuary 2, 1939.)

“We are socialists, we are enemies of today’s capitalistic economic system for the exploitation of the economically weak, with its unfair salaries, with its unseemly evaluation of a human being according to wealth and property instead of responsibility and performance.” - Adolf Hitler

Just because they fought the Commies does not mean they were not also Leftists and Socialists. Many of the nastiest ideological fights take place not between opposites but between two groups fighting over the same space in the ideological spectrum.


19 posted on 05/24/2018 8:27:57 AM PDT by FLT-bird (..)
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To: Bonemaker

Nazi’s were just another form of Communist. The reason they “hated” communists was simply because they were competitors for the masses.

You might want to research why the Nazi flag was red. It was literally to attract communists to their side.
A nazi is a hard left communist that fits in neatly with a soviet, or a modern American Antifa or Democrat.

The nest proof of this is east Germany. The Germans there easily adapted and decided being Stasi was just as good as Gestapo. The Stasi wasn’t Russian.


47 posted on 05/24/2018 12:20:37 PM PDT by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up. ....)
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To: Bonemaker

“After WW1 there was a life and death struggle between the communists and the NSDAP as to who would rule Germany.”

I give you Hillary supporters vs Bernie Sanders types.


48 posted on 05/24/2018 12:21:46 PM PDT by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up. ....)
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To: Bonemaker

That was socialist versus communist. Are you saying Hitler and Hess were right wingers? LOL!


50 posted on 05/24/2018 1:30:42 PM PDT by gr8eman (Since God has been banished from our classrooms, Satan has filled the void.)
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