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To: huldah1776; slag
WARNING: Q Agnostic Posting Follows
Please skip over this post if you do not want to discuss Q's verisimilitude!

A good chuck of my Q-skepticism revolves around the extravagant claims made for the Wiener laptop. Put simply people have been making these claims since 2016. I believe Q was among them since he surfaced.

Then there was the whole #ReleaseTheVideo series of Q posts, where we were told they had the tapes and would be released soon.

That never happened though, did it.

And then all the stuff like Hillary on Suicide Watch? Why is she in New Zealand?

Probably because she is getting paid to speak there. Maybe just part of her jet-set lifestyle, she seems to enjoy traveling all over. India in March, NZ in May. A charmed life for the former Secretary. I'm sure she'll be back in the USA soon, and delivering speeches to lefties here in the USA.

Sadly though, no one making these claims will ever bother to post that they were wrong. What kind of "house arrest" (with her electronic bracelet hidden in her ankle cast!) allows her to travel all over the world giving speeches? None, rather obviously.

Face it, she's free as a bird. Probably she is a sick bird, but I just don't see actual evidence for all the claims made against her.

Oh, yeah, where is the

MOAB!

That we were promised 3 weeks ago?

REALITY BASED SCORECARD

TEAM MUELLER / BLACK HAT:

TEAM OIG WHITE HAT:

Now, if we want to extend the proof of Q's extraordinary claims to the current news we could add the New York AG to the list of those arrested. Are Ronan Farrow, New York Magazine and the New York Times part of the Q team?

Because the proof for DIA Secret Agents bringing down NIXVM or Schneiderman is non-existent. On the other hand the role of New York, Farrow and the Times is quite blatant.

I choose to believe my own lying eyes, at this point.

I'm looking forward to team White Hat putting a few more points on the board. I expect that to happen. I really hope it does, as I think the FBI and DOJ have acted reprehensibly and illegally with Trump surveillance, FISA warrants, etc.

But none of what I'm expecting is based on Q-anon postings. As a source I strongly prefer The Conservative Treehouse

, who are doing extensive analysis of primary source documents (like IG Reports, Congressional Reports, etc.) and producing a compelling narrative.

What I'm still not seeing is any proof for the over-the-top "Military Tribunals Are Coming" scenarios promised by Q and his interpreters.

I find the claim that Mueller is really helping Trump laughable. And, correct me if I'm wrong, wasn't that the whole original theme of Q-anon, fleshed out in dozens of haikus?

Even Corsi has become frustrated with the Q-anon stuff, that should be telling people with some level of skepticism something. Instead, I see people now denouncing Corsi.

Odd. Corsi is obviously a sincere person, incredibly diligent, spends hours a day on this stuff, and has for months.

OK, please school me, correct me, tell me why I'm wrong. And please keep in mind, this is a friendly collaborative thread and: I am a FRIENDLY. I would LOVE to see Hillary, Bill, Susan Rice, Sally Yates, David Brock, Obama, Chelsea, Michelle, both Podesta brothers and all the rest dressed in Orange and eating off a steel tray.

246 posted on 05/09/2018 9:30:40 AM PDT by Jack Black
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To: Jack Black

Just stick around...... things are about to start moving fast....


247 posted on 05/09/2018 9:35:23 AM PDT by txhurl (World War Q)
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To: Jack Black
It is always a good idea to revisit and reexamine people's beliefs. Skepticism of Q is valid and worthy of discussion. Like many things taken on faith only in the end will it be proved one way or another. The rest is just speculation.

an aside:

interesting indictment in NY mentions Horowitz

The indictments were announced today by U.S. Attorney Jessie K. Liu, Nancy McNamara, Assistant Director in Charge of the FBI’s Washington Field Office, and Michael E. Horowitz, Inspector General of the U.S. Department of Justice.

https://www.justice.gov/usao-dc/pr/six-family-members-indicted-federal-charge-related-4-million-extortion-scheme

gypsies tramps and thieves?
Psychic Gypsy Archie Kaslov of 668 6th ave, Ny NY / Lying Thieves & Scam Artists

https://www.complaintsboard.com/complaints/psychic-gypsy-archie-kaslov-of-668-6th-ave-ny-ny-lying-thieves-scam-artists-c618039.html

what does horowitz have to do with this ? inquiring minds would like to know!

260 posted on 05/09/2018 10:01:58 AM PDT by rolling_stone
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To: Jack Black
November 20, 2017, Q said ...

Disinformation is real.
Disinformation is necessary.
Could be similar to Trump tweeting, about Comey, "He better hope there aren't tapes."

You've been around long enough to know it is prudent to take pretty much everything with some amount of skepticism. How and where and how much of it to apply is challenging.

Anyway, if we accept that Q deliberately plants falsehood, what you propose as a "reality-based scorecard" will show a number of failures. So would a reality-based scorecard of Trump tweets.

CTH isn't perfect either. I find numerous connection of dots created through speculation, when an alternative fact-based explanation gets to the same point.

-- I find the claim that Mueller is really helping Trump laughable. And, correct me if I'm wrong, wasn't that the whole original theme of Q-anon, fleshed out in dozens of haikus? --

Q never claimed Mueller was going after Hillary, or similar, if that's what you mean by helping Trump. An argument can be made that camp Mueller was like a flame is to moths, and that part was helpful - and painful at the same time. Q has mostly posed questions about Mueller, and admitted the totality was confusing. People can swing either way on Mueller, eg, LS here (Larry Schweikart) was a proponent of "Mueller is going after the FBI and Hillary" theory for awhile, maybe still is. Others, myself included, say "no way." I think Q would laugh and say "keep puzzling!"

263 posted on 05/09/2018 10:22:31 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: Jack Black

Here’s my take - JMO: The libs would never have trusted any investigation by Sessions. The recusal was a tactical move and the outrage over it was fake.

Mueller and Rosenstein were compromised and dirty. Trump offered them a deal. Or more likely a deal they couldn’t refuse. They are now leveraged and dancing to Trump’s fiddle. (Notice that all the conservative tv/radio talkers are screaming about Mueller, but Trump has never run him down like he did with Comey.)

Remember also that Trump “interviewed” Mueller for the FBI director position. Supposedly. He was ineligible for that job. I believe that interview was when Trump gave him his marching orders. Or else.

So Mueller is not a white hat. He’s a leveraged black hat.

... I could be wrong, but that fits the best with the facts as I know them. It is the only explanation that I can think of that would explain the behavior of all the involved parties.


284 posted on 05/09/2018 10:59:35 AM PDT by generally ( Don't be stupid. We have politicians for that.)
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To: Jack Black

The MOAB turned out to be the MOAB ;)


358 posted on 05/09/2018 12:45:38 PM PDT by Steven W.
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