[BroJoeK]

jeffersondem: "None of the slave states allow slaves to vote."

Just as no state today allows slaves to vote, but that doesn't imply conditions are even remotely the same.

In fact, in 1787 there were three (not just two) Southern slave-states where freed-blacks could vote: Delaware, Maryland and North Carolina.
There were also four Northern states: New Hampshire, New York, Massachusetts & Pennsylvania.

By 1860 all voting by freed-blacks was eliminated in Southern states, so Confederate "freedom fighters" were fighting for a much different vision of "freedom" than our Founding Fathers had.

[HandyDandy]

You are speaking to an he/she/it that can’t make the distinction between British Colonies and the united States. But it tickles his “bollix” to keep repeating the same nauseating crap over and over and over and over.................

By the way, he mentioned that someone was just a member of the supposed in-group trying to influence me to establish a disqualifying out-group stereotype."

You wouldn’t do something like that to me would you? :)