By the way, he mentioned that someone was just a member of the supposed in-group trying to influence me to establish a disqualifying out-group stereotype."
You wouldn’t do something like that to me would you? :)
I’m only nominally familiar with demojeff’s leftspeak...
I saw that, don't know what to make of it.
"In-group", "out-group" what do those even mean?
How can you even have a "group" when you're typing at a computer hundreds or thousands of miles away from the others?
We're all Free Republic "in-group" and all "out-group" from other less conservative sites.
I've seen nothing from jeffersondem, DiogenesLamp or any other Lost Causer that I'd necessarily disagree with in terms of today's politics, so this all qualifies as intramural squabbling, over the question of how much respect should our Civil War era ancestors be shown?
My answer is, all the respect in the world, especially for those young soldiers who owned no slaves but did fight to protect their homes & families.
For Confederate leaders, not so much.
And respect should never go to the point of accepting their lies as if true.
By 1865 Republicans were the party of emancipation & abolition who won virtually 100% of freed-black votes.
By 1965 Democrats grabbed that mantle (rightly or wrongly) and Southern whites began voting Republican.
But they cannot have been super-happy voting for the party which myth told them was the root-cause of all their misery.
So today, two generations beyond 1965, we're still arguing out the truth or falsehood of various historical accounts.
Interesting to note that DiogenesLamp claims to have no Southern roots and spends inordinate efforts to feed us a diet of European Marxist dialectics -- economics & class warfare uber alles.
I'm not certain if that's the best defense of 1861 Fire Eaters.
Jeffersondem does claim to be Southern, but uses terms and forms of argument which strike me as... ah, oddly alien.
Who in your experience says "chivvy", "tally book" and "on the prod"?
I've never heard those elsewhere, had to look them up.
I'm guessing they're colloquial to some specific region, but can't even guess which.
Of course, I never read much by William Faulkner or Margaret Mitchell, and if they used such terms, well...
As for jeffersondem's forms of argument -- heavy on pointed, humorous questions, light on actual data, well... they do provoke some thought.
Lost Causers' great advantage in being unconstrained by actual facts they are free to argue one way today and a different way tomorrow, sometimes even in the same post.
Our great advantage is the whole wealth of actual history to support whatever the truth of it happens to be.
Stick to the truth and we'll always be consistent, even while DiogenesLamp & others complain about "doctrine" or "repetitive".