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To: JockoManning; grey_whiskers; blu; smoky415; Mytruevine; Aquamarine; Cboldt; mairdie; RitaOK
1. I think Dr Judy Wood's note of the buildings falling at the rate of a free-falling rock negates the scenario of the weight of the upper floors collapsing the building through softened steel. There WOULD be some bit of delay as the falling parts crashed into the next floor. That would negate the free fall speed. imho. We just found her presentation and that of architects and engineers for 9/11 truth to be convincing in most respects.

Jocko, you misunderstand. The softening steel is only the initiating proximate cause of the collapse. None of the rest of the floors collapse due to any softening steel. They collapse by sheering off their cleats or literally the main trusses just completely fail as the weight on them is so far beyond their designed safety parameters. After the first couple of floors land on the next, the sheer weight is far more than the cleats can withstand for even a fraction a second and there literally no resistance to oppose the force. lt lets go instantly. They are not designed to hold under the weight of three or four or five or six, etc. floors of debris hitting them at an ever accelerating velocity (try calculating the kinetic energy of THAT MASS) of 32 feet per second per second.

Keep in mind, also, that the plane that hit each of the WTC Towers took out an appreciable percentage of 200 feet of the 240 feet of one or more side's exterior support curtain wall across at least two floors. These ARE structural members of these buildings' design and are integral in supporting the floors. The curtain wall takes the place of vertical iBeams in normal building construction. Remove 150 feet of curtain wall and floors above that section which was obliterated is no longer fully supported and the forces which those now-obliterated curtain wall sections have to be picked up by other sections of curtain wall, at vector angles for which they were NOT designed to handle. Two to maybe ten segments, yes, they were designed to handle, but not 80 to over 120 missing segments on two or three floors. Now, add fire, hot fire. . . without the level of fire insulation on the structural steel members the architects specified was required.

The plane parts in the wreckage of the Pentagon are difficult to reconcile. It was either a plane or a lot of big plane parts loaded onto a big drone. It it was a plane, it is not logical that it was flown so expertly by incompetent hijackers. It may have been flown by remote control.

Jocko, flying a plane accurately by remote control is far harder than flying a plane by an on-board pilot. There is no feel for the plane, no feel of acceleration, no feel for where the ground is, and really no 3D forward looking vision until just recently. There is also a built-in lag time which results in additional reaction time delay which can be disastrous, especially in attempting an approach close to the ground.

As for Qx and his insights into Bush, this deponeth sayeth not, because I truly do not know. I do believe, given his family connections, that It is entirely possible he was aware.

1,970 posted on 05/05/2018 6:02:45 PM PDT by Swordmaker (My pistol self-identifies as an iPad, so you must accept it in gun-free zones, you hoplaphobe bigot!)
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Are you employed to spin dissonance or just this determined to spread the disinformation fog supported by staged crap? Physics says therer is so far no explanation which fits what happened to the towers. To so arduously spin for one explanation or another is suspect therefore. And if you want me to shut up and get out of your way just let Jim know I am questioning the 911 conventional explanation.


1,973 posted on 05/05/2018 6:29:29 PM PDT by MHGinTN (A dispensational perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
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To: Swordmaker; MHGinTN; JockoManning; xone; rodguy911; RitaOK; ransomnote

I just got back from work.

(I Apologize to everyone for ever, ever responding to a 9-11 post!)

The Q thread? Can someone point me to a recent summary? Thanks!


1,974 posted on 05/05/2018 6:59:07 PM PDT by Pete from Shawnee Mission
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