Why More Men Than Ever View Marriage as a Bad Deal

PJ Media ^ | 03/09/2018 | John Hawkins

[Freedom_Is_Not_Free]

Amen to that. The divorce rate among devout Christians is much lower than the general populace.

God bless you.

[Freedom_Is_Not_Free]

Amen. Dead on.

[Freedom_Is_Not_Free]

That would be very telling. Do children of divorced parents swear not divorce like their parents, or do they bail more easily since they expect marriages to fail.

The thing is, how many of them marry in the first place? I wonder what the marriage rates are for children of divorced parents. That experience may have soured them on marriage completely.

[beef]

I have a friend whose wife left him for a multi millionaire. He is in his own right pretty well off, but not private jet well off. Anyway, her new squeeze, being a good business man, encouraged her to fleece him, make him liquidate his business, family home, everything, and split it down the middle. In the mean time, he develops a serious disease, probably because of the stress this caused. The only thing that saved home were his 3 grow children, who stood firmly behind him. She backed down.

[DoodleBob]

I really felt sad, that so many men now think marriage is evil, and all women are money grubbers. SAD!

That's by design.

I believe the media and governments crank up the agitprop, that men don't want to marry because they think all women are money-grubbing post-modern feminists seeking to drain their bank accounts and spirit...that they'd rather watch porn 24/7 instead, and live a metrosexual existence with bromances, feeling morally superior about not bringing an environmental scourge, i.e. children, into the collective.

This agitprop is working well in Europe....

They've achieved zero population growth via fewer marriages and more children out of wedlock. In turn - surprise - they've got a YUGE migrant problem fueled by politicians demanding that they need labor. THIS...is EXACTLY the end game these agitprop-pushing statists want.

Yes, more US men are eschewing marriage and there are divorce horror stories. But our marriage and fertility rates remain above those in Europe...American men on balance haven't bought in to this women-hating dystopia, despite articles like these. Though we must remain on guard lest America becomes like Europe, I remain optimistic about the US' future.

[Dubh_Ghlase]

Interesting thread...

We had a up & coming young male college intern at work who was offered a job right out of college at a pretty darn good starting wage. I liked the kid, and having a lot of time and experience in the industry I decided to give him some words of wisdom. I told him to be careful about women, as the smart ones would see his upwardly mobile economic track and try to put a leash on him asap. He was a bit reserved on hearing this advise, and I found out later his "girlfriend" was already pregnant (not planned on his part). I was too little, too late in my advise...

Last I heard, he didn't marry her, but does support and co-raise his kid, so i give him snaps for that. That story proved to me that the new generation of females are hunting for a provider, not necessarily a mate...

[papertyger]

The only thing that saved home were his 3 grow children, who stood firmly behind him.

I've always said "be careful how you treat your children; you'll answer to an adult for those actions one day."

[airborne]

I used to be married but I'm feeling g much better now!

[papertyger]

That's by design. I believe the media and governments crank up the agitprop, that men don't want to marry because they think all women are money-grubbing post-modern feminists seeking to drain their bank accounts and spirit...

Nonsense. It's nothing more sinister than society having well developed mechanisms for controlling the natural proclivity of men to violence and aggression, while having literally NO mechanism for controlling the natural provlivity of women to vanity and duplicity.

[papertyger]

I once talked to a young man in much the same position, career wise.

He told me his fiancée’s dad offered them a ten thousand dollar check to elope, rather than have him pay for a wedding.

The girl told him “don’t even think about it.”

i told him I’d be very anxious about marrying such a girl.

The poor kid was totally uncomprehending.

[Ambrosia]

That makes me more hopeful. Divorce is inevitable in some situations, and children must be taken care of financially. So our laws do favor women in that area, and I believe Dads should be very involved in those children’s lives.

As a woman, it irks me some women do bash their ex husband. I feel, if she thought he was worthy to marry and sleep with, the children deserve the respect from her to not slam the Dad, every chance she gets. That reflects more on her than him. However, the spouse spurned should not be telling the other is considered evil, for everyone makes mistakes, most regret that...Jesus was only perfect human.

What you said makes sense. Some men do try to relive their college fun existence or the hang out, good old boy, drinking/fishing/hunting buddy lifestyle. This metrosexual or bromance thing is scary in today’s society. The porn thing is so addictive, and harder than drugs for some to overcome. Of course, nothing is impossible with God.

I have lunch once a month with an old female friend, and we do not allow testosterone. Why? We have husbands, sons, grandson, and not enough females in family. So both of us deal with the males all month long, and relax for one meal a month....instead of prepare it! It helps!

So glad the correct statistics came out of the thread. Have good day1

[RegulatorCountry]

Marriage for “love” is a crock, that’s been my takeaway. Marry because you actually like one another, have similar interests and life goals, because you complement one another. Know you’d make a great team because that’s what you’re in fact proposing to do. What popular belief terms “love” is no such thing, it’s merely physical attraction, lust. That often fades. A deeper form of love due to a shared life of triumphs and tragedies gone through together will come with time and that’s an enduring love. I often wonder if folks in the old days didn’t have it closer to right with the arranged marriages. People themselves are too blinded by hormones to see what and who would make a good mate in the sense of a complementary pair.

That said, I’d never marry a woman who would have any interest in my assets, meaning she has her own. That eliminates some of the rampant scheming, grasping and greed right there.

[Dubh_Ghlase]

LOL! I just made that offer to one of my daughters. She also refused, so I had to set a limit on what I would spend on her wedding. Note, she was 32 when she got married...

Her younger sister has already told me she'd take the offer, so there is hope.

[RegulatorCountry]

The best advice for that young man is... run! Really manipulative family dynamic regarding money and who knows what else, and a multigenerational one at that.

[dforest]

Man, I am so glad you cleared that up;)

[papertyger]

The best advice for that young man is... run! Really manipulative family dynamic regarding money and who knows what else, and a multigenerational one at that.

I couldn't disagree more regarding the family dynamic, but I'd certainly run from that fiancée.

[usconservative]

As the need for financial security has fallen away, “love” has become the primary motivator of people who want to marry. The problem with that is that love can be one fickle b*tch.

Well that's one way to say it. I have a slightly different way: They're all batshit crazy, period!

There are ZERO exceptions to that statement. It's only a matter of time until the batshit crazy comes out, for some it's sooner, for others it's later. It almost always happens with the onset of menopause for women as the hormones rage out of control.

Warning signs for men would include:

- "Hotflashes"
- That "distant" look in their eyes as their brain disengages when talking
- A sudden and intense focus on money (watch your bank accounts as menopause approaches and question every withdrawl)
- Talk of a sudden sense of "Freedom" once the kids turn 18
- Disengagement from the kids once they turn 18
- More "wine parties" with "the girls"
- An increase in her divorced friends (they travel in groups and recruit each other to divorce their husbands)
- Reading "relationship" related books (gives them "ammo" for complaints even if they don't really care/agree with what's in the book)
- Talk of "not being happy" anymore
- Complaints about lack of intimacy, especially if they're the one's who've shut that off. They have this unique way of trying to turn the tables here....
- Sudden/increased focus in remodeling the home (they want it ready to sell when they file for divorce)

And this is only a PARTIAL list!

My advice to both my sons, now 20 and 22 years old: DON'T DO IT! They know I'm not kidding.

[usconservative]

From your keyboard to God’s monitor, every word you posted is 1,000% true.

[DoodleBob]

If I understand it correctly, your thesis is Ambrosia's sentiments of sadness that so many men now think marriage is evil, and all women are money grubbers, is NOT fueled by a plan to eviscerate traditional masculinity, but due to there being no societal controls on "the natural provlivity of women to vanity and duplicity."

Put aside for a moment, whether or not we are all hard-wired that way. The attendant proclivities of both sexes you list have been around since Original Sin (or since man climbed from the primordial soup for non-believers) and we got along pretty well for centuries with the attendant controls (or lack thereof). What remedy do you believe NOW is needed to TRULY force women to live by the same rules as men?

[Georgia Girl 2]

Oh here we go. Another women bashing article. Mostly total horse shite. Its pathetic and laughable.