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Buying a used phone? Beware of this common scam no one wants to talk about
Digital Trends ^ | February 12, 2018 - 3:00AM | By Simon Hill

Posted on 02/13/2018 10:18:03 PM PST by Swordmaker

Maybe your phone is scratched up, the battery won’t hold a charge anymore, or you’re just plain sick of it. Whatever the reason, you start to shop around for a new phone, but all your budget will allow is a bland, mid-range device. So you hop online to see what kind of bargain you can pick up second hand. Someone is selling last year’s flagship iPhone or Samsung Galaxy, barely used, at a drastically lower price. You pounce and secure yourself a shiny new smartphone at a steal.

The phone arrives in a couple of days, as described, and you pat yourself on the back for your bargain-hunting skills. But you can’t activate it. Or maybe you use it for a month or so, and then it gets blocked. Upon further investigation, you realize your new phone has been reported lost or stolen. The seller won’t respond to your messages. To make matters worse, no one wants to help you – not your carrier, not the website you bought on, not even the police.

The used phone scam is frighteningly simple.

We’re sorry to say, you’ve fallen victim to a horrifyingly common used phone scam. A quick Google search reveals countless threads on forums across the world going back years, where victims appeal for help because they bought a phone that turned out to be blacklisted and unusable. Read through them and you’ll see the vast majority don’t have a happy ending. The victim typically has to eat the loss, with no prospect of getting their money back.

The used phone scam is particularly pernicious, because it doesn’t rely on a victim’s gullibility, and it’s not as well-known as something like the white van speaker scam. Everything appears to be perfectly legitimate right up to the point your new phone gets blocked. If it has happened to you, sadly there’s nothing we can do to help you, but read on if you want to learn more about the scam and how to avoid it in future.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Computers/Internet
KEYWORDS: applepinglist; fraud; usedphonescam
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1 posted on 02/13/2018 10:18:03 PM PST by Swordmaker
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To: ThunderSleeps; dayglored; ShadowAce; ~Kim4VRWC's~; 1234; 5thGenTexan; AbolishCSEU; Abundy; ...
Thinking about buying a used iPhone or Android phone? There are hidden pitfalls from crooks and scammers waiting to pounce on you to steal your money, leaving you with an unusable phone and no recourse. This article provides advice on how to minimize that risk, if not eliminate it entirely. —PING!

Pinging dayglored, ThunderSleeps, and ShadowAce for their lists.


Used Phone Scamming Ping!

If you want on or off the Mac Ping List, Freepmail me.

2 posted on 02/13/2018 10:28:08 PM PST by Swordmaker (My pistol self-identifies as an iPad, so you must accept it in gun-free zones, you racist, bigot!)
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To: Swordmaker

The last new phones that my wife and I purchased were HTC Touch Pro IIs in late 2009. Every phone since has been a used phone... most from highly rated sellers on eBay. All of them have been a fraction of the price of an equivalent new phone. They have all looked basically new. We have never had a problem with any of them.


3 posted on 02/13/2018 10:31:02 PM PST by fireman15
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To: Swordmaker

Seems like there should be a blockchain solution to establish clear title to devices with unique serial numbers.


4 posted on 02/13/2018 10:37:19 PM PST by coloradan (The US has become a banana republic, except without the bananas - or the republic.)
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To: Swordmaker

Daughter’s boyfriend works at Apple. ‘Nuff said.


5 posted on 02/13/2018 10:49:21 PM PST by Darteaus94025 (Can't have a Liberal without a Lie)
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To: Swordmaker
Thanks SM. I was not planning on getting a used phone, but for sure, I am not planning on it now. Next month, I will have an X. 👍
6 posted on 02/13/2018 11:24:21 PM PST by Mark17 (Genesis chapter 1 verse 1. In the beginning GOD....And the rest, as they say, is HIS-story)
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To: Swordmaker
Rather than buying the X at a Verizon store, I know there is an Apple store at the Arden Way Mall, but I will be in Stockton, so I will probably be closer to the Apple store in Emeryville. I plan to buy it outright, cuz I will use it on Globe Telecom anyway, with a Globe SIM. 😁
7 posted on 02/13/2018 11:43:09 PM PST by Mark17 (Genesis chapter 1 verse 1. In the beginning GOD....And the rest, as they say, is HIS-story)
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To: coloradan

Seems like there should be a blockchain solution to establish clear title to devices with unique serial numbers.

cars don't need blockchain, just titles. not rocket science, but phone racketeers and service providers are getting rich(er) off this scam.


8 posted on 02/13/2018 11:48:18 PM PST by 867V309 (Lock Her Up)
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To: Swordmaker
Boy, was I wrong. Stockton is actually closer to Sacramento, than Emeryville. 👎
9 posted on 02/13/2018 11:49:14 PM PST by Mark17 (Genesis chapter 1 verse 1. In the beginning GOD....And the rest, as they say, is HIS-story)
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To: Swordmaker

Never buy a used phone.

Never sell a used phone.


10 posted on 02/14/2018 12:06:58 AM PST by conservative98
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To: conservative98
Never buy a used phone.

Never sell a used phone.

Nope. I use the HRC method and beat them with hammers.

11 posted on 02/14/2018 12:56:21 AM PST by Wingy
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To: Mark17
Rather than buying the X at a Verizon store, I know there is an Apple store at the Arden Way Mall, but I will be in Stockton, so I will probably be closer to the Apple store in Emeryville. I plan to buy it outright, cuz I will use it on Globe Telecom anyway, with a Globe SIM. 😁

You will be closer to the Modesto Apple store I think. . . In Vintage Faire Mall. It’s probably a tossup with Arden Fair Store.

12 posted on 02/14/2018 1:44:49 AM PST by Swordmaker (My pistol self-identifies as an iPad, so you must accept it in gun-free zones, you racist, bigot!)
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To: Swordmaker

You are right. Modesto is closer.


13 posted on 02/14/2018 3:12:56 AM PST by Mark17 (Genesis chapter 1 verse 1. In the beginning GOD....And the rest, as they say, is HIS-story)
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To: Swordmaker
Someone is selling last year’s flagship iPhone or Samsung Galaxy, barely used, at a drastically lower price

If it's too good to be true, it probably is.

14 posted on 02/14/2018 3:14:42 AM PST by grobdriver (BUILD KATE'S WALL!)
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To: Swordmaker

I’ve bought and sold many iPhones on eBay - never had a problem.


15 posted on 02/14/2018 3:17:58 AM PST by Darth Gill
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To: fireman15

Yup, eBay makes it easy. Clean esn or bad esn in the title treks what you need to know.

If you buy off Craigs list, meet at your local wireless retailer and make sure it’s good and not under contract before giving them any money.


16 posted on 02/14/2018 3:23:02 AM PST by mongrel
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To: Swordmaker

I bought a used cable modem on Craigslist that they wouldn’t activate as belonging to someone else or something. Well, after I left a message the guy changed his number! Hilarious since he came to the meet in his work truck. After I contacted his main office he decided to return the money.


17 posted on 02/14/2018 4:00:09 AM PST by \/\/ayne (I regret that I have but one subscription cancellation notice to give to my local newspaper.)
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To: Swordmaker

I have a rotary dial phone that is pulled around on a little 2-wheeled cart which also has a hand-crank generator for power. Don’t have to activate anything and hateful teenage hackers in the malls give me dirty looks for the sign on the back of the cart which reads, “Hack this!”.


18 posted on 02/14/2018 4:09:07 AM PST by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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To: Swordmaker

I had an LG phone from Sprint that stopped work a day after the warranty expired. I could make and receive calls and I could hear the other person but they couldn’t hear me. I tried to get them to fix it and we went back and forth a couple of times and they agreed, not once but twice to ship me a refurbished phone for a small fee, but never did. As I had dumped my land line and my cell was and is my only phone, while I was waiting for a replacement that never came, I bought a used phone on eBay from a seller who had a good rating and good reviews.

But when I went to activated it turned up to be lost or stolen and couldn’t be activated.

Fortunately, I contacted the eBay seller and he apologized and returned my money in full a day later.

I wouldn’t do this again. I ended up cancelling my Sprint contract (their customer service was horrible), and went with ATT and got a new Samsung phone, and yes, I ponied up and got the insurance and a one year extended warranty.


19 posted on 02/14/2018 4:21:37 AM PST by MD Expat in PA
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To: fireman15

“highly rated sellers on eBay”

Now thats funny, you left out Craigslists


20 posted on 02/14/2018 4:46:27 AM PST by CGASMIA68
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