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When America Despised the Irish: The 19th Century’s Refugee Crisis
The History Channel ^ | March 16, 2017 | Christopher Klein

Posted on 02/06/2018 7:19:26 PM PST by Az Joe

Today, 32 million Americans—10 percent of the country’s population—celebrate their Irish roots. There was a time, however, when the thought of Americans honoring all things Irish was unimaginable. This is the story of the prejudice encountered by refugees from Ireland’s Great Hunger and how those Irish exiles persevered to become part of the American mainstream.


TOPICS: History; Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: america; fartyshadesofgreen; immigration; ireland; irish
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To: Az Joe
When did we stop hating the Irish?

Austin Powers: There are only two things in this world that scare me and one is nuclear war.
Basil: What’s the other?
Austin Powers: Huh?
Basil: What’s the other thing that scares you?
Austin Powers: Carnies The Irish. Circus folk. Nomads, you know. Smell like cabbage. Small hands.

41 posted on 02/06/2018 11:13:56 PM PST by WMarshal ("IN AMERICA WE DON’T WORSHIP GOVERNMENT — WE WORSHIP GOD." POTUS tweet 2017)
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To: Mears

Because in my estimation, the piece was to trying to compare the Irish immigrants with the modern illegal aliens.

The History Channel is a creature of the mainstream media; any article like this activates my spidey-sense.


42 posted on 02/06/2018 11:23:07 PM PST by Bratch ("The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." - Edmund Burke)
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To: kiltie65

Ah ha. So more of my kin than the black folk’s were enslaved? I will be sure to read up more on that history and be ready if I am ever in an argument with a perpetual victim sort.


43 posted on 02/06/2018 11:40:05 PM PST by kelly4c
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To: Wallace T.

Hmm. I’m Irish on the paternal side and none in that family were ever whiners. Not sure they know of the history as I myself know very little as for some reason I’ve focused more on the Jewish Hungarian and German ancestors.


44 posted on 02/06/2018 11:42:55 PM PST by kelly4c
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To: kiltie65

Oh, I understand completely.


45 posted on 02/06/2018 11:43:30 PM PST by Maine Mariner
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To: Az Joe
Whoa, whoa, whoa.... When did America stop despising the Irish????


46 posted on 02/07/2018 1:00:26 AM PST by jerod (Nazi's were essentially Socialist in Hugo Boss uniforms... Get over it!)
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To: bitt; Impy; ifinnegan

The descendants of famine ship passengers ... Walk among us


47 posted on 02/07/2018 1:26:46 AM PST by campaignPete R-CT (Committee to Re-Elect the President ( CREEP ))
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To: campaignPete R-CT

“There came to these shores a poor exile of Erin,
“The dew on his wet robe hung heavy and chill.
“Ere the steamer that brought him had passed out of hearin’
“He was Alderman Mike, inthrojuicin’ a bill!

- Kipling


48 posted on 02/07/2018 3:20:32 AM PST by elcid1970 ("The Second Amendment is more important than Islam. Buy ammo.")
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To: akalinin

Consider that the very hearts blood of that island came here. What was left behind was the dregs.


49 posted on 02/07/2018 3:31:40 AM PST by Jimmy Valentine (DemocRATS - when they speak, they lie; when they are silent, they are stealing the American Dream)
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To: Kenny Bania

Yup. The USS Sullivans. Name is plural because it is named for all 5 brothers who gave their lives.


50 posted on 02/07/2018 3:46:06 AM PST by Alas Babylon! (Keep fighting the Left and their Fake News!)
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To: Bratch

I agree. That my take, also.

The America of the 1840s at least had a frontier to settle. Many more immigrants could be accepted in the growing country and out West. And if native-born went West, the places they left behind were not so crowded.

By the early 1900s this had changed. The frontier was settled, and America on the east coast and in the Midwest was filling up with two many people. The horror and shock of WWI and the refuge crisis it caused was a huge problem for the country as it appeared that everyone would come to America. By 1919 1/3 of all Americans foreign-born. Congress passed the Immigration Act of 1020, that put a stop to most immigration.

This resulted in the “Americanization” of the vast horde of foreigners and was good for them and the rest of the country.

Ted Kennedy got mass immigration started again with his new Immigration Act of 1965, but this one forced the government to let it people from everywhere, not just Europe.

NOW we have as many foreign-born or MORE than we did in 1919 and we really need to have another hiatus.


51 posted on 02/07/2018 4:25:40 AM PST by Alas Babylon! (Keep fighting the Left and their Fake News!)
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To: Alas Babylon!

1920, not 1020!


52 posted on 02/07/2018 4:28:44 AM PST by Alas Babylon! (Keep fighting the Left and their Fake News!)
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To: HereInTheHeartland

As England took over all of Scotland, Wales and Ireland, most probably spoke some English.

Between the potato famine and the greedy landowner Lords both English and Native turfing out the tenent Farmers for Sheep grazing there was mass migration to the US for Scot and Irish. Much like the Chinese that were imported to build the railroads. All were poorly paid as the builders wanted cheap labor. No different from today’s businesses.


53 posted on 02/07/2018 5:56:12 AM PST by GailA (Ret. SCPO wife: suck it up buttercups it's President Donald Trump!)
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To: BenLurkin
BenLurkin wrote: "The southerners of whom you speak were not immigrants. They were colonists.

And also of different lineage."

Many were brought from Scottish prisons to the colonies as indentured servants

54 posted on 02/07/2018 6:26:11 AM PST by wtd
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To: jerod

Lol!


55 posted on 02/07/2018 6:55:20 AM PST by Az Joe (Gloria in excelsis Deo)
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To: Az Joe

First they were not illegals. The Irish came here legally. They spoke English, didn’t get welfare, were christian and immediately began to assimilate.

Second. Over the span of 150 years 4.7 million Irish came to the US.

Since 1986 11-30 million illegal Hispanics have arrived. Most from Mexico. They have not assimilated because they are well illegal. They suck our welfare system,education and healthcare dry. It just ain’t the same thing.


56 posted on 02/07/2018 8:44:43 AM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...
Thanks Az Joe. This would never happen today, because most immigration is done by plane (or in the trunk of a car or back of a panel truck from Mexico), and they won't let you get on the plane drunk.

:^) Hey, it's okay to knock your own ancestors, or someone else's if they're Amish.
Clannad - Mháire Bruineall (Live 1978)

Clannad - Mháire Bruineall (Live 1978)

57 posted on 02/07/2018 1:46:56 PM PST by SunkenCiv (www.tapatalk.com/groups/godsgravesglyphs/, forum.darwincentral.org, www.gopbriefingroom.com)
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To: Az Joe
This absolutely not analogous too today's problems...The Irish were immigrants (under the law) and within a couple of generations had fully integrated into U.S. society (the olde "melting pot" concept at work).

The issue today is related to illegal foreign migrants (NOT immigrants) who are more inclined to "infiltrate" U.S. society stealing jobs and income, destroying the K-12 education system, and funneling untaxed money (about 28,000,000,000 dollars-per-year) to their shole countries of which they remain citizens and to which they still owe principal allegiance.

58 posted on 02/07/2018 2:34:07 PM PST by SuperLuminal (Where is another agitator for republicanism like Sam Adams when we need him?)
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To: campaignPete R-CT
Oh ok, History Channel, let's just let in the entire populations of El Salvador and Syria, that's the point of this trip down memory lane, yeah? Run out of episodes of "Ancient Aliens" to show, you filthy hacks?
59 posted on 02/07/2018 11:02:14 PM PST by Impy (I have no virtue to signal.)
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To: Peter Libra; Big Red Badger

Cool... Thanks Peter!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Poole


60 posted on 02/08/2018 6:09:28 AM PST by golux
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