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Mormons perform baptisms on Holocaust victims
AP ^ | December 21, 2017 | Brady McCombs

Posted on 12/21/2017 9:13:49 AM PST by C19fan

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To: C19fan

I don’t care for this Mormon practice. Not at all.

That said it’s meaningless and the dead don’t care.


21 posted on 12/21/2017 9:56:33 AM PST by Drango (A liberal's compassion is limited only by the size of someone else's wallet.)
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To: ptsal

“word games.....still NOT biblical.”

i’m not sure what Bible you may be familiar with, but this is a quotation from the King James version of the Bible? it is from Paul’s first epistle to the Corinthians found in the New Testament.

check your Bible and see if these are not the exact words of Paul.

1 Corinthians 15:29

“Else what shall they do which are baptized for the dead, if the dead rise not at all? why are they then baptized for the dead?”


22 posted on 12/21/2017 9:58:25 AM PST by IWONDR
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To: C19fan

In Islam, everyone is born Muslim You don’t convert; you revert.

The Mormons just do the reverse: die a gentile, join in death.


23 posted on 12/21/2017 10:06:18 AM PST by Loyalist (Let us beat our teddy bears into swords and our tea lights into shields!)
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To: C19fan

That’s really insulting... on so many levels.


24 posted on 12/21/2017 10:09:25 AM PST by GOPJ (EVERY hellhole in the world is run by self appointed 'elites'...think about THAT FBI traitors.)
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To: IWONDR

time to surf on DuckDuckGo——

mormon baptism of the dead


25 posted on 12/21/2017 10:09:52 AM PST by ptsal ( Get your facts first, then you can distort them as you please. - M. Twain)
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To: EinNYC

“I am sure that G-d is very angry about their attempt to force their religion on the dead, who cannot resist. Fortunately, they are working with empty shells, while the actual soul has gone on to its reward. So, they are merely necrophiliacs. Really really sick people.”

from what i understand of their beliefs, baptism is an earthly ordinance; meaning that as Christ [a perfect, sinless being] was baptized by John the Baptist, then it is a requirement that mere mortals also be baptized while on earth. those who died without being baptized then are baptized by those who remain on earth who serve as their proxy. those who are dead for whom this baptism was done are not in any way required or forced to accept this baptism. mormons are strong believers in free will.


26 posted on 12/21/2017 10:10:55 AM PST by IWONDR
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To: IWONDR

The context of 1 Corinthians 15:29 is the idea of being baptized for a savior who didn’t rise from the dead, IF the dead be not raised. Context, context, context.


27 posted on 12/21/2017 10:11:03 AM PST by aimhigh (1 John 3:23)
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To: C19fan

Baptizing is not magic. “baptizing” someone without their knowledge, or who is dead, is a ridiculous exercise in witchcraft. Says a lot about the crazy religion of Mittens Romney.


28 posted on 12/21/2017 10:19:08 AM PST by I want the USA back (Lying Media: completely irresponsible. Complicit in the destruction of this country.)
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To: LouieFisk
As I sez, it does ticks people off - that’s an effect.

It's up to people whether or not they get ticked off. It's like getting mad at Santa Claus or the Easter Bunny.

29 posted on 12/21/2017 10:19:14 AM PST by Fido969 (In!)
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To: C19fan

Somewhat loony a baptisms have to be received by living people either personally or when presented by a parent or guardian.


30 posted on 12/21/2017 10:20:51 AM PST by jmaroneps37 (Conservatism us truth. Liberalism is lies.)
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To: aimhigh

“The context of 1 Corinthians 15:29 is the idea of being baptized for a savior who didn’t rise from the dead, IF the dead be not raised. Context, context, context.”

BINGO!!!

so your interpretation makes sense to me even if the mormons may use that same scriptural passage as a basis for their practice of proxy baptisms. just a difference in interpretation. i have had some mormons relate to me that baptisms for the dead were performed in much earlier biblical times.


31 posted on 12/21/2017 10:26:52 AM PST by IWONDR
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To: Fido969
If it has no true effect, it’s harmless.

Except that the people doing it are deluded into thinking they're accomplishing something for the departed.

32 posted on 12/21/2017 10:28:30 AM PST by Not A Snowbird (A year in Arizona... and I haven't burst into flames yet.)
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To: Fido969
It's up to people whether or not they get ticked off.

So true.

These days it seems everybody is getting ticked off about everything. That anger isn't healthy.

33 posted on 12/21/2017 10:33:09 AM PST by ladyjane
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To: RegulatorCountry

This is the reason they’re so big on genealogy. Taking names for mass Baptism of the dead.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baptism_for_the_dead#Genealogy_and_baptism


34 posted on 12/21/2017 10:36:15 AM PST by Pollard (TRUMP 2020)
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To: C19fan

This is what they believe. Comes up from time to time. It is heresy and insanity....other than that


35 posted on 12/21/2017 10:50:40 AM PST by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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To: C19fan

Will not read this article, but asking does the researcher have a name? And is the researcher anti-Mormon? I mean, is there any verification of these acts? It sounds ridiculous.


36 posted on 12/21/2017 10:52:11 AM PST by originalbuckeye ('In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act'- George Orwell)
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To: C19fan

It appears that the Mormon practice of baptism for the dead contradicts the Book of Mormon!

In Alma 34.35-36 we read: “For behold, if ye have procrastinated the day of your repentance even until death, behold ye have become subjected to the spirit of the devil, and he does seal you his. Therefore, the spirit of the Lord has withdrawn from you and hath no place in you; the power of the devil is over you, and this is the final state of the wicked.”


37 posted on 12/21/2017 10:55:29 AM PST by FNU LNU (Nothing runs like a Deere, nothing smells like a john)
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To: ptsal

There was a time when the Jews criticized the diets of Jesus’s followers for the same reason.


38 posted on 12/21/2017 10:57:02 AM PST by Moonman62 (Make America Great Again!)
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To: ptsal

would be better to go to a reliable Christian commentary and learn the history of the practice that Paul mentions in 1 Cor while defending the resurrection of the dead. I was taught that if someone had died shortly after giving their life to Christ, that is when the baptism was done by proxy.

My brothers and I became Christians one day in Mar ‘61. My oldest brother died in Nam but I don’t believe he was ever baptized. In 61 he would have been around 8 1/2. I’ve thought about the proxy thing, but never did any real research into it.


39 posted on 12/21/2017 10:57:44 AM PST by huldah1776 ( Vote Pro-life! Allow God to bless America before He avenges the death of the innocent.)
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To: C19fan

It’s meaningless, like a statue of athena is meaningless. Mormons...or morons?


40 posted on 12/21/2017 11:03:10 AM PST by captain_dave
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