Posted on 12/17/2017 5:14:29 PM PST by a little elbow grease
As a Steeler fan who just endured that game:
I only have one thing to say about the ending of that game:
As I understand the rule of a “pass catch” it is when a player 1. --- takes possession of the thrown ball , THEN 2. ---- makes what they call “a football move”. That is what determines a catch. 1 and 2.
(This rule I believe was first employed just a few years ago concerning a catch and a subsequent fumble. A catch was determined a catch if the receiver took control of the ball and then made “a football move” before he may fumble it when hit.) --- a pretty crappy rule no matter what.
Well……….. our Steeler player definitely 1. -- caught that ball and had complete control over it, then 2. --- reached out (IN “A FOOTBALL MOVE”)…… never having been touched by the other team (not that that is at all relevant) …….he reached over the goal line and as the ball was in his grasp the ball hit the ground slightly but the ball was still in his grasp.
That is a CERTAIN CATCH AND TOUCHDOWN because he took control of the ball then (reached over the goal line—“a football move”) with the ball and kept control never having been touched by the opponent. Touchdown.
1.--- It was a completed pass THEN 2. --- he made “a football move” reaching into the end zone -- that term is in the rule book. He landed in the end zone keeping control of the ball AFTER THE CATCH AND “THE FOOTBALL MOVE”. (Even if he “bobbled” the ball slightly, he had made a catch AND made that required "football move" as he reached over the goal line. ) Total horsesh*t call.
If the NFL had any balls (that aren’t deflated), they would admit they made a HUGE MISTAKE for the owner of the Patriots, Robert Kraft.
Total BS
The Steelers outplayed those New England characters most of the night, except for that beastly tight end of theirs.
Well……… we’ll see them later this year, and I don’t care where that game will be played, we may have Antonio Brown back for the entire game then.
The Patriots are going down the next time, no matter where it is played. (jmo)
Did you take a knee in your living room during the National Anthem? Do you use the flag as a rug in your den, do a dance on it each time your team scores?
I think Elbow specified that he wasn't touched, so the knee down doesn't matter.
Bring back the XFL!!
For some it is more fun to be outraged than to actually examine how they might culpable.
I just watched the play. Catch and touchdown. Do doubt.
Don’t know but my fingers aren’t hitting on all cilenders
And I dislike both teams.
Bring back the USFL!
If you watch the replay, at no time did the receiver exit the "making the catch" mode, when he caught it, it continued in a falling motion to the ground, and lunged at the same time he was falling.
From the explanation:
"...[James] is going to the ground,” Riveron says. “By rule, to complete the process of the catch, he must survive the ground. And by that we mean he must maintain control of the football. As we see here, he does put the ball over the goal line extended. Once he gets there, he loses control of the football and then the ball hits the ground. We can see here the ball touches the ground. So therefore two things occur. He loses control of the football and the ball touches the ground prior to him regaining control. Therefore the ruling on the field of a touchdown was changed to an incomplete pass...”
As a former and never-to-return football fan, I don't give a damn. Sorry man, there it is.
Learn the rules and STOP WHINING! Go Pats!
See the explanation above at #189...there were actually two reasons (explanation from the NFL) why it wasn’t ruled a catch. When you watch the replay, it is true...the guy is in the process of going to the ground as he crosses the goal line.
According to the NFL, he was still in the “catching mode” because you have to complete it down to contact with the ground and he didn’t do that.
I wouldn’t like it much either if I were rooting for Pittsburgh, but that is the rule. Like many, I believe they should change the rule to something simpler, but that is what the rule is right now.
The Steelers weren’t “robbed.” Mike Tomlin is just an idiot. Fake spikes NEVER work. It was lost once he made that retarded call...especially after the Seahawks goal line disaster a few Super Bowls ago. The real story was the 4 play complete dominance by the Pats the previous drive. Where the hell was the Steelers D?
May i ask where you got that image from?
Actually, it’s a reeking puddle of diarrhea and has been since the seventies.
It’s just that now a greater portion of the former fan base is noticing.
It was neither, by the rules that all the teams play by. The ball moved when he landed, before he established possession, so it was not a catch. No catch means no touchdown.
I agree plus the ball look underinflated to me.
Sorry, foot down, knee down with control, stretch forward for a football move, break the plane with control is a catch and a TD. And then the receiver with his hand under the ball with no evidence of the ball touching the ground, catch.
I’d seen it somewhere a while ago, and just did an image search to find it again.
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