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To: Neoliberalnot
OK, science fans: so how come we have increasing numbers of kids showing up on the autism spectrum? We most likely always had some of our number with some form of autism but nothing like we are seeing now and the numbers are increasing.

There are causative factors and we aren't finding them. We can't afford to diddle around and wait until we hit 20% or so of our children getting this condition. It's horrific enough already.

This needs to be a true national priority.

2 posted on 12/17/2017 4:46:58 AM PST by Chainmail (A simple rule of life: if you can be blamed, you're responsible.)
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To: Chainmail
There are causative factors and we aren't finding them.

Freemasons are poisoning the water supply?

Seriously, it is not even clear that there is an absolute increase, or whether it's just labeling: a person who would once have been called "a bit weird" or "very awkward" is now "Autism Spectrum."

It could be that the "causative factor" is as simple as the State and Federal money that pours into government schools for every child on whom they can put a "special needs" label.

4 posted on 12/17/2017 4:52:33 AM PST by Tax-chick ("It's not like a productive member of society would have been lost." ~ PAR35)
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To: Chainmail

If it can be caused by environmental factors then why not vaccines as well?? Truly just wondering.


6 posted on 12/17/2017 4:53:45 AM PST by floridavoter2
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To: Chainmail

“This needs to be a true national priority. “....

It will never become a “priority” until it hits the kids of those who could do something to eradicate it.

I have strong opinions of what causes (or contributes) to autism as my grandson, now 21 was perfectly fine until he hit the age of 3 then all hell broke loose and he started getting his immunizations. Don’t get me started!


7 posted on 12/17/2017 4:55:48 AM PST by DaveA37
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To: Chainmail

Please read the article. Genetics, environmental pollutants, pregnant women getting the flu and infections during pregnancy, immigrants with no vaccinations entering the country and bringing in who knows what diseases.


13 posted on 12/17/2017 5:03:09 AM PST by Neoliberalnot (MSM is our greatest threat. Disney, Comcast, Hollywood, NYTimes, WaPo, CNN, NBC, CBS...)
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To: Chainmail
We most likely always had some of our number with some form of autism but nothing like we are seeing now and the numbers are increasing.

I don't agree with this at all. I think the amount has always been constant, it's just that before these modern times, no one had a collective name for it, nor did the vast majority of people work with their intellects, but rather worked as human machines--that is serfs, peasants, farmer workers, etc.

I started using ancxestry.com for my family about ten years ago, and now have done numerous genealogy studies for several others. One thing shines through--every family has had it's criminals, ne'er-do-wells, hermits, unsuccessful uncles, spinsters and others labeled in this manner. I believe they were nothing more than autistic.

18 posted on 12/17/2017 5:04:26 AM PST by Alas Babylon! (Keep fighting the Left and their Fake News!)
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To: Chainmail

OK, science fans: so how come we have increasing numbers of kids showing up on the autism spectrum?


due to better detection and reporting

Also due to the widening of the “Autism spectrum’. The definition of autism in the past was much, much narrower.


20 posted on 12/17/2017 5:06:43 AM PST by marktwain (President Trump and his supporters are the Resistance. His opponents are the Reactionaries.)
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To: Chainmail

I agree with you 100%, it does need to be a national priority. We are seeing the numbers increasing however there has been a change in the criteria for what constitutes/qualifies as Autism so more people now meet the criteria and are being labeled as having Autism. I am a National Board Certified Special Education teacher who has over 17 years experience working with children with Autism and other disabilities. In recent years, more children have qualified as having Autism, but their characteristics are all completely different and this has made creating education plans for each of them challenging. Regarding the belief of a correlation of vaccines and this disorder, I have worked with many parents who say prior to their child receiving a vaccine their child was completely normal. There are too many of them for me to dismiss the possibility of a link. I have read the original study that has been debunked and I have also read other studies too. In my opinion finding a definitive cause or a possible cure for this condition is as elusive as finding a cure for cancer.


30 posted on 12/17/2017 5:13:46 AM PST by MissEdie (I am South Carolina Strong.)
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To: Chainmail

I would bet autism is growing in countries with high use of birth control.


31 posted on 12/17/2017 5:16:01 AM PST by D Rider
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To: Chainmail
Learning as I go but the article mentions, For other children, genetic changes (mutations) may increase the risk of autism spectrum.. The gene they most likely are discussing is the C677T polymorphism in the MTHFR gene (being close to by autism makes one read & research a lot). Up to 90% of autistic kids have defects in the MTHFR gene and this defect effects a process known as methylation which eliminates heavy metals and toxins from the body (read vaccines). When kids have two defective copies of the MTHFR (from both the mother and dad), they are in double trouble. A blood test for MTHFR damage costs about $150, if not covered by insurance, and I'd suggest all new parents have this done before they fall into the CDC vaccine protocol currently used by pediatricians.
37 posted on 12/17/2017 5:19:04 AM PST by JonPreston
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To: Chainmail

Boys are more likely to be labeled as autistic. Public schools are geared for little girls who are willing to sit down and be quiet. When boys act differently than girls in the classroom, the teacher labels the boys with autism or attention disorder. We know what happens next...mind-altering drug prescriptions for the boys.


55 posted on 12/17/2017 5:37:46 AM PST by abclily
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To: Chainmail

Women putting off having children until they are 30 or older.


75 posted on 12/17/2017 6:02:00 AM PST by monocle
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To: Chainmail

I have a son with ASD. My doctor brother-in-law stated that many feel the rise is due to the fact that many women are having children at an older age. Therefore, the eggs that (finally) get impregnated are old and degenerating.

It makes total sense to me.


77 posted on 12/17/2017 6:03:50 AM PST by Hammerhead
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To: Chainmail

Metal poisoning, same symptoms.

Mad hatters syndrome.


108 posted on 12/17/2017 6:48:27 AM PST by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: Chainmail

Because they keep changing the actual definition of the spectrum

If my son in law were a youngster today he would end up on the spectrum, get a label, and be given all sorts of “help”. Thankfully he is a married adult with a great job and a wife who loves him


151 posted on 12/17/2017 8:10:47 AM PST by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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To: Chainmail

Why? Well a few reasons...

1) its being diagnosed and looked for. 40 years ago a kid with high to mid functioning autism would just be labeled odd, or developmentally delayed or both.

2) There is no doubt in my mind that Autism is a combination of biology and environment. Somewhere during the last 100 or so years, while we were creating and releasing all sorts of man made chemicals into the environment that had never before been seen, without a damned clue what their possible impacts could be, one, or a family of them, has gotten themselves into the bloodstream of women, (as well as men), exposure to these chemicals in a developing fetus with the right genetic disposition results in Autism. No studies have proven this yet, but the general distribution of Autism clusters highly supports it... Rates higher in California for example that Minnesota etc.

I have ZERO doubt, when all is said and done, we will find that exposure to certain chemicals, during crucial brain development stages, by individuals with certain generic characteristics results in the bulk of Autism Spectrum Disorders.

The only other cause, that I can think of is a yet unknown viral infection, that is relatively benign to the host, but hostile to brain development of a fetus.


265 posted on 12/18/2017 7:46:38 AM PST by HamiltonJay
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To: Chainmail

Surely part of it is definition.

It used to be autism was a very, very rare disorder with children completely unable to communicate, etc.

Now they toss in everything from what was then known as mental retardation to almost any behavioral issue or unpopular personality quirk.

That said, debilitating issues do seem to have increased dramatically, whether primarily through vaccinations, environmental stuff, or whatever.


287 posted on 01/31/2018 7:55:36 AM PST by 9YearLurker
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