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If it can be caused by environmental factors then why not vaccines as well?? Truly just wondering.


6 posted on 12/17/2017 4:53:45 AM PST by floridavoter2
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It’s the six-month MMR vaccine. Now given at two years in many places.

It’s not the 19th century. There is no longer open air markets in the midst of waste and refuse due to a lack of public sanitation.

Infants should stay at home as much as possible.

We vaccinate at 5, just before Kindergarten. Any earlier and a parent is playing Russian roulette with a lifetime of despair.


16 posted on 12/17/2017 5:04:15 AM PST by Justa
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Of course it could be vaccines. Thimerisol is a preservative they don’t use any more

If it were vaccines, big pharm, the Mayo Clinic and the CDC would be acting just the way they are acting

They’ll never admit it

Vaccines at least should be spread out. Why give a four hour newborn four vaccines at once?


21 posted on 12/17/2017 5:07:16 AM PST by stanne
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The vaccine thing has been investigated too many times to count. Autism shows up in many parts of the world where kids have never had a single vaccination.


24 posted on 12/17/2017 5:09:41 AM PST by Neoliberalnot (MSM is our greatest threat. Disney, Comcast, Hollywood, NYTimes, WaPo, CNN, NBC, CBS...)
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To: floridavoter2
If it can be caused by environmental factors then why not vaccines as well?? Truly just wondering.

Chemicals in the environment affect hormone expression (that is, the amount of hormone in the blood) and can have direct neurological effects.

In order to understand why vaccines cannot possibly cause autism, you have to understand what vaccines are and how they work.

Vaccines consist of a killed or attenuated pathogen, or of proteins extracted from a pathogen. The immune system recognizes them as if they are the pathogen, and responds accordingly. The vaccines have no capacity to actually cause disease. This is important in the discussion of autism, because the *only* way that a vaccine could cause autism is if it had the same effect on the brain that a live pathogen has. Assuming that the disease being vaccinated against affects the brain (like meningitis), the proteins in the vaccine would have to actually enter the brain to be able to cause that effect. But they can't do that, because vaccines are not injected into the brain. In addition, the toxins from pathogens are detoxified when made into vaccines, so they do not and cannot have the same effect on the body that the actual pathogen has.

Since a vaccine would have to mimic a pathogen that affects the brain in order to cause brain damage, the obvious conclusion here is that vaccination against that pathogen would decrease brain damage, by preventing the illness that causes neurological damage.

Another consideration is that if the immune response to a vaccine were capable of causing autism, then the immune response to the disease being prevented would cause autism. Since the immune response to a disease is typically far more severe than the immune response to a vaccine, if this were the case, then we should have seen a massive drop in the number of autism cases corresponding to the roll-out of childhood vaccinations. We (meaning the scientific community, of which I am a member) have not seen this, so there probably is no connection between immune responses and autism.

There is some evidence that pregnant women who develop fevers during pregnancy have higher chances of giving birth to autistic children. So, vaccinating them against diseases that cause fevers would actually decrease the incidence of autism. I'm not sure how strong this link is, between fever and autism.

101 posted on 12/17/2017 6:35:10 AM PST by exDemMom (Current visual of the hole the US continues to dig itself into: http://www.usdebtclock.org/)
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See FR article -
https://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/3614427/posts


167 posted on 12/17/2017 9:41:12 AM PST by RideForever
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