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Will the Obama Birth Certificate Forgery Ever Be Probed by Federal Authorities?
The Post & Email ^ | 12/7/2017 | Sharon Rondeau

Posted on 12/10/2017 5:08:23 PM PST by Elderberry

In an interview last Friday with “Freedom Friday” host Carl Gallups, Obama birth-certificate lead investigator Mike Zullo revealed for the first time that the “Deep State” prevented a federal investigation of his findings, compiled over a 5+-year period, that the “long-form” birth certificate image posted by the Obama White House in 2011 is a “computer-generated forgery.”

Virtually unknown in the United States prior to the election of Donald J. Trump last year, the term “Deep State” has now been invoked by some newscasters, journalists and commentators as well as by Trump himself through his Twitter account. Left-leaning news outlets reluctantly discussed it beginning in early March, after Trump claimed on Twitter that he and his campaign aides had been “wiretapped” during the final months of the presidential campaign.

On March 9, 2017, Politico Magazine declared, “The Deep State Is a Figment of Steve Bannon’s Imagination,” referring to then-White House Senior Adviser Steve Bannon, now Editor-in-Chief at Breitbart News.

The article begins, featuring a photo of Bannon:

Here’s a handy rule for assessing the credibility of what you’re reading about national security in the Trump era: If somebody uses the term “Deep State,” you can be pretty sure they have no idea what they’re talking about.

(Excerpt) Read more at thepostemail.com ...


TOPICS: Conspiracy
KEYWORDS: 1bigfraud; believeanything; bigfoot; birther; boguspotus; buttermagnet; certifigate; fbi; hawaii; jamescomey; kenya; liarinchief; malcomxson; naturalborncitizen; obama; peterstrzok; robertmueller; ufo
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To: Fantasywriter
I remain convinced that the onus is on those who claim it was not an issue.

You’re asking me to prove a negative. You’re the one who’s claimed that that these regulations existed, the onus is on you to back that up.

Btw, what is your theory as to why SA would have rushed out of HI under the circumstances? Had she given birth there, she had many reasons to remain. Why would she have undertaken such an upheaval in her life?

No idea. Maybe a 17 year old with a new-born child to an older African guy in 60’s America has already demonstrated that she makes unusual decisions. But that’s just conjecture as is your point that it doesn’t make sense.

You keep talking about how there’s no evidence of Dunham’s existence in Hawaii during her pregnancy or shortly thereafter but that’s not true.

There’s evidence that she was married in Hawaii in February. There’s evidence from the Polk directory and from the newspaper birth announcements that she was living in her parent’s house.

There is also this note from the INS which states that the child was born on the 4th August 1961 in Honolulu and was living with his mother at her parents house while the father was living at a different address – and that she was due to travel to WA state for the upcoming semester. Which, BTW, also supports Maraniss’ narrative that Dunham and the baby lived at her parents house but ‘not as a family’, i.e, with Barak Obama I.

But I don’t have to prove that bc all known facts point to Stanley Ann already being in the Seattle/Vancouver area when the baby was born.

Really? I’ve just shown that there is some evidence that she was in Hawaii during her pregnancy. What facts have you provided to show that she was in Seattle/Vancouver or even of her being anywhere else? For someone who claims it’s not credible for someone not to leave a trace for that period of time (even though you ignore the traces that do exist), surely you must have found evidence of her being somewhere else.

141 posted on 12/12/2017 1:53:03 PM PST by Natufian (t)
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To: Fantasywriter

It fits the timeline.

January 31, 1961 - School ends - Honolulu, Hawaii
February 02, 1961 - Marries - Maui, Hawaii
March 3rd, 1961 - Husband lists address as Apt 15, 1704 Punahou Street - Honolulu, Hawaii

And it makes more sense than she flew to Vancouver to have her baby at the Salvation Army Home for Unwed Mothers when she could have stayed in Hawaii at the Salvation Army Booth Home.

In fact it makes more sense that she went to the SA Booth Home in Honolulu for the months leading up to the birth but changed her mind and had the baby at Kapiolani.


142 posted on 12/12/2017 2:01:10 PM PST by 4Zoltan
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To: Natufian

Cindy Pratt, who was living in the same house the Dunhams lived in, says Stanley Ann wasn’t there. However, the birth announcements in the newspaper said both Stanley Ann and Obama Senior plus the baby were living there.

Which are you going to believe? An actual resident, or the newspaper? Maraniss, who did extensive interviews in Honolulu and with Cindy Pratt says Stanley Ann and her newborn NEVER lived at that address.

See my tagline to find out what I think of keyboard warriors who imagine they know so much more than the people who did the actual on-the-ground research.

Now, here is a simple and reasonable question. If a woman has a baby, where, as a general rule, would she and the baby first be seen? Somewhere in the vicinity of the birth, or 2,683 miles away?


143 posted on 12/12/2017 2:03:40 PM PST by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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To: Fantasywriter

That reply was sadly lacking in any evidence of her presence in Seattle/Vancouver during the period in question. Do you have any?


144 posted on 12/12/2017 2:25:23 PM PST by Natufian (t)
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To: 4Zoltan

That doesn’t explain why SA’s first verified sighting was in Seattle. Her parents lived in Honolulu, and Cindy Pratt lived in the same house. But Cindy mentioned no encounter with SA and the baby until they returned from Seattle.

Nor does that scenario explain why SA would rush off to Seattle in the first place. If she’d had the baby in HI, A, there’d have been no reason not to remain there, and B, there would have been a BC in Obama’s file, as opposed to the “handwritten notes.”

There are so many other issues, too. It is incredibly time consuming to go through them all, and there’s no point bc as I said and sincerely and honestly believe, Obotism is a mental illness.

However, here is just one example. Kapiolani came into possesion, by a strange means, of a letter purporting to be from Obama. It thanked them for bring the hospital of his birth. They posted the letter in a public place, and successfully used it for fundraising.

Then WND confronted Kapiolani, and informed them that they were fundraising fraudulently UNLESS Obama had in fact actually been born there.

Immediately the letter disappeared. It has never been seen again.

A normal person would draw the natural conclusion from that sequence of events. However, no Obot ever would. That’s just the way it is.

There are so many other examples, all of a similar nature. Taken all together they point in only one direction. An Obot, however, will NEVER take them all together. They insist on taking each one separately, proposing a solution that *only* passes muster with fellow Obots, and then they take a victory lap.

It’s 100% predictable.


145 posted on 12/12/2017 2:28:56 PM PST by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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To: Natufian

Did you happen to notice the question at the end of my post? If you are capable of answering it intelligently and honestly, it will form the basis for the SA-in-Seattle phase of the discussion.


146 posted on 12/12/2017 2:32:07 PM PST by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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To: Fantasywriter

That’s a long winded way of saying ‘no’, right? I thought as much.


147 posted on 12/12/2017 2:55:35 PM PST by Natufian (t)
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To: Natufian

Bol! So you are Pete! It all makes sense.

Sorry I called you a zotted retread. You are merely an Obot troll with two accounts.

The question is, is that actually better...or worse.


148 posted on 12/12/2017 2:59:15 PM PST by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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To: Fantasywriter

That’s an even longer winded way of saying ‘no’. Just admit it, there’s no shame in saying you made a mistake.


149 posted on 12/12/2017 3:06:29 PM PST by Natufian (t)
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To: Natufian

Here is one of my all time favorite pics.

Enjoy!

https://www.reddit.com/r/The_Donald/comments/6stp8b/run_cucks_run/


150 posted on 12/12/2017 3:06:35 PM PST by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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To: Natufian

You are referring, no doubt, to the delay entailed in recognizing you as Pete.

Ah well; better late than never.


151 posted on 12/12/2017 3:09:47 PM PST by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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To: Fantasywriter
"Immediately the letter disappeared. It has never been seen again."

Try to keep up.

http://www.wnd.com/2009/07/104146/

Did Stanley Ann live at 1704 Punahou Street Apt 15 in the months leading up to the birth? Yes or no

Did the dunham's rent the apartment for them? They insisted on the marriage, did they insist they live together?

As for your tagline mine is better.

152 posted on 12/12/2017 3:10:57 PM PST by 4Zoltan (THERE WAS A SALVATION ARMY HOME FOR UNWED MOTHERS IN HONOLULU IN 1961)
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To: 4Zoltan

The letter is not currently displayed.

Multiple sources have verified that SA and O Sr never lived together. If you can’t find any information on the subject, you’re not looking very hard.


153 posted on 12/12/2017 3:21:50 PM PST by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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To: Fantasywriter

Pete? Feel free to give me any name you want. If you want to use it as a diversion from you’re inability to back up your theory, that’s fine as well.


154 posted on 12/12/2017 3:28:39 PM PST by Natufian (t)
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To: Natufian

Bol! Your like one of those retreads that, upon being recognized, answers back, ‘Zotted? What’s a zot?’

It’s unconvincing, to put it nicely.


155 posted on 12/12/2017 3:33:15 PM PST by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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To: Natufian

‘Now, here is a simple and reasonable question. If a woman has a baby, where, as a general rule, would she and the baby first be seen? Somewhere in the vicinity of the birth, or 2,683 miles away?’

You are the one, btw, who is dodging a question. That’s something you have in common with—ahem—Pete. He liked to demand answers, but absolutely refused to answer even the simplest and most reasonable questions himself.

Sound familiar?


156 posted on 12/12/2017 3:47:45 PM PST by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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To: Pete Thomas

Blah blah blah. I ask these simple, basic and immanently pertinent questions bc they are crucial to the issue. You have yet to answer a single one of them. You have that in common with—ahem—another—haha—poster on this thread.

If you are serious about the issue, then answer the question I asked you. If you can’t even do that, then you are nothing more than an Obot troll. Wear the title with pride.


158 posted on 12/12/2017 4:27:35 PM PST by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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To: Fantasywriter

Did you even bother to read the article?

“Peters says Kapi’olani actually has a reproduction of the “original letter” on display at the hospital.”


159 posted on 12/12/2017 4:42:52 PM PST by 4Zoltan (THERE WAS A SALVATION ARMY HOME FOR UNWED MOTHERS IN HONOLULU IN 1961)
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To: Fantasywriter

“A, there’d have been no reason not to remain there, and B, there would have been a BC in Obama’s file, as opposed to the “handwritten notes.””

A. Other than a husband.

B. There is one on file as indicated by Dr. Fukino.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e9D4n6_Uifk


160 posted on 12/12/2017 4:47:43 PM PST by 4Zoltan (THERE WAS A SALVATION ARMY HOME FOR UNWED MOTHERS IN HONOLULU IN 1961)
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