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We Were Soldiers
Steyn On-line ^ | November 11, 2017 | Mark Steyn

Posted on 11/11/2017 4:46:08 PM PST by Twotone

On "Fox & Friends" this morning, reacting to the live footage of President Trump in Hanoi, I talked about the Vietnam war's domestic impact on the American psyche. It took many decades for that to change, and this Veterans Day movie pick is one of the cultural artifacts of that evolution in perception - a film about soldiering that wears its allegiance in its very title. It was released about six months after 9/11, in the spring of 2002, and in that sense is a movie about an old war seen through the lens of a new one.

The best thing about We Were Soldiers is how bad it is. I don't mean "bad" in the sense that it's written and directed by Randall Wallace, screenwriter of Braveheart (which won Oscars for pretty much everything except its screenplay, which was not overlooked without reason) and Pearl Harbor (whose plonking dialogue has been dwelt on previously in this space). Mr Wallace is as reliably uninspired as you can get. And yet it serves him well here. Pearl Harbor was terrible, but it was professionally terrible, its lame dialogue and cookie-cutter characters and butt-numbingly obvious emotional manipulation skillfully woven together into state-of-the-art Hollywood product. By contrast, in its best moments, We Were Soldiers feels very unHollywoody, as if it's a film not just about soldiers, but made by soldiers - or at any rate by someone who cares more about capturing the spirit of soldiery than about making a cool movie. It's the very opposite of Steven Spielberg's fluid ballet of carnage in Saving Private Ryan, and yet, in its stiffness and squareness, it manages to be moving and dignified in the way that real veterans of hellish battles often are.

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TOPICS: History; TV/Movies
KEYWORDS: halmoore; marksteyn; melgibson
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1 posted on 11/11/2017 4:46:09 PM PST by Twotone
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To: Twotone

I love that movie.


2 posted on 11/11/2017 4:51:51 PM PST by bagster (Mama tried to raise me better.)
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To: bagster

Yes, it was a great one. Makes me start crying just to think of it.


3 posted on 11/11/2017 4:53:03 PM PST by Twotone
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To: bagster

It is my favorite war movie. I watch it about once a year.


4 posted on 11/11/2017 4:53:50 PM PST by Bryanw92 (Asking a pro athlete for political advice is like asking a cavalry horse for tactical advice.)
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To: Twotone

As an Air Mobile member that followed Col Moore and 7th Cav footsteps in Air Mobile training at Fort Benning with the 199th Light Infantry (That unit is still at Benning today), I can only say this is the most realistic depiction of what air mobile really was. The 7th Cav training and the Ia Drang battle caused one of the pivotal swings in battle tactics by Airborne, Ranger, Special Forces and Light Infantry units for the rest of the war. Great movie.


5 posted on 11/11/2017 5:01:08 PM PST by redcatcherb412
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To: bagster

LtGen Hal Moore was truly a Generals General, and EVERY MANS General, may he rest in eternal peace!!


6 posted on 11/11/2017 5:01:39 PM PST by MagUSNRET
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To: Twotone

Good flick. Loved the final battle scene.


7 posted on 11/11/2017 5:07:30 PM PST by ealgeone
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To: Twotone
Does anybody remember Freeper Aloha Ronnie who was in the Army in Vietnam around this time? He used to post here all the time.
8 posted on 11/11/2017 5:12:41 PM PST by SoCal Pubbie
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To: Twotone
Lt.Gen. Harold Gregory "Hal" Moore, Jr., USMA 1945, left us this past February (2017) after a long and distinguished career.

While he was the 'star' of the book and movie, there was another soldier there at the Battle of Ia Drang that we should keep green in our memory, Col. Cyril Richard Rescorla, a Cornishman who lived a life that left footprints in the sands of time. When called to ultimate action, after a very eventful life, he died at 09/11 saving people in the South Tower. It was his face, his photo, that was on the cover of Hal Moore's book.

On this day where we remember our Veterans, lets us also praise them for they are and were heros in our midst!

9 posted on 11/11/2017 5:15:10 PM PST by SES1066 (Happiness is a depressed Washington, DC housing market!)
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To: Twotone

Sgt. Major Plumley was an amazing man. Simply amazing.

L


10 posted on 11/11/2017 5:19:44 PM PST by Lurker (President Trump isn't our last chance. President Trump is THEIR last chance.)
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To: Twotone

Bkmk


11 posted on 11/11/2017 5:37:34 PM PST by samtheman (Where is the Clinton Dossier that is the product of Trump/Russian collusion?)
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To: Twotone

There is a documentary with Soldiers from this fight returning to Vietnam.

Very moving.

I read the book about the French battle at the beginning of the movie.

STREET WITHOUT JOY


12 posted on 11/11/2017 5:49:17 PM PST by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: ALOHA RONNIE

Yes


13 posted on 11/11/2017 5:51:34 PM PST by combat_boots (God bless Israel and all who protect and defend her! Merry Christmas! In God We Trust!)
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To: SoCal Pubbie

I remember Aloha Ronnie well.


14 posted on 11/11/2017 5:58:11 PM PST by MomwithHope (Law and Order and that includes Natural.)
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To: SoCal Pubbie

I was thinking about “Aloha Ronnie” just the other day. Hope he’s all right.


15 posted on 11/11/2017 6:03:23 PM PST by Ax
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To: Twotone

The Master Sgt was The Best

Sam ????


16 posted on 11/11/2017 6:12:08 PM PST by combat_boots (God bless Israel and all who protect and defend her! Merry Christmas! In God We Trust!)
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To: combat_boots

Correction

Sgt Maj Plumley


17 posted on 11/11/2017 6:16:20 PM PST by combat_boots (God bless Israel and all who protect and defend her! Merry Christmas! In God We Trust!)
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To: SoCal Pubbie; combat_boots; MomwithHope; Ax
Aloha Ronnie's most recent post was February 25th of this year.
18 posted on 11/11/2017 6:17:19 PM PST by FreedomOfExpression
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To: FreedomOfExpression

Thanks!


19 posted on 11/11/2017 6:25:19 PM PST by MomwithHope (Law and Order and that includes Natural.)
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To: Twotone

One of my favorite movies. Bought it recently. But I came away from it just thinking what a horrible waste of great young men! Politicians just suck!


20 posted on 11/11/2017 6:27:06 PM PST by Phillyred
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