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Mumps Makes a Comeback, Even Among the Vaccinated
NYTimes ^ | 11/6/17 | PERRI KLASS, M.D.

Posted on 11/06/2017 7:44:52 AM PST by Tilted Irish Kilt

The number of mumps virus infected in 2010 was in the hundreds.
Last year there were 6,000 cases reported.
(See news source due to copyright restrictions)


TOPICS: Health/Medicine; Science
KEYWORDS: mumps; vaccine; virus
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To: TigerClaws

My mom didn’t vaccinate, for this very reason.

Despite the pharma industry propaganda the vaccine
does not provide complete immunity.


21 posted on 11/06/2017 9:07:23 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: GCC Catholic

I believe it has been found Smallpox is still alive in the Eskimo victims buried in permafrost, same for the 1918 Flu victims.

Then there is live virus found in an abandoned lab a few years back. No one knows how many other vials are floating around out there.


22 posted on 11/06/2017 9:12:24 AM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: Tilted Irish Kilt

I had to have an MMR booster in the early 1990’s. This has been coming since then. These viruses mutate. Kinda like the lefties do.


23 posted on 11/06/2017 9:17:59 AM PST by b4its2late (A Liberal is a person who will give away everything he doesn't own.)
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To: All

Herd immunity (also called herd effect, community immunity, population immunity, or social immunity) is a form of indirect protection from infectious disease that occurs when a large percentage of a population has become immune to an infection, thereby providing a measure of protection for individuals who are not immune.[1][2] In a population in which a large number of individuals are immune, chains of infection are likely to be disrupted, which stops or slows the spread of disease.[3] The greater the proportion of individuals in a community who are immune, the smaller the probability that those who are not immune will come into contact with an infectious individual.[1]

Individual immunity can be gained through recovering from a natural infection or through artificial means such as vaccination.[3] Some individuals cannot become immune due to medical reasons and in this group herd immunity is an important method of protection.[4][5] Once a certain threshold has been reached, herd immunity gradually eliminates a disease from a population.[5] This elimination, if achieved worldwide, may result in the permanent reduction in the number of infections to zero, called eradication.[6] This method was used for the eradication of smallpox in 1977 and for the regional elimination of other diseases.[7] Herd immunity does not apply to all diseases, just those that are contagious, meaning that they can be transmitted from one individual to another.[5] Tetanus, for example, is infectious but not contagious, so herd immunity does not apply.[4]

The term herd immunity was first used in 1923.[1] It was recognized as a naturally occurring phenomenon in the 1930s when it was observed that after a significant number of children had become immune to measles, the number of new infections temporarily decreased, including among susceptible children.[8] Mass vaccination to induce herd immunity has since become common and proved successful in preventing the spread of many infectious diseases.[9] Opposition to vaccination has posed a challenge to herd immunity, allowing preventable diseases to persist in or return to communities that have inadequate vaccination rates.[10][11][12]


24 posted on 11/06/2017 9:44:20 AM PST by TigerClaws
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To: crz

Me and one of my brothers had it as kids. Pretty miserable for about a week. Other siblings had received the Mumps/Measles/Rubella shot, me and the unlucky brother got the Measles/Rubella shot.

When you open the doors to the third world what did they expect


25 posted on 11/06/2017 10:56:07 AM PST by sarge83
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To: Don Corleone
And the plague too.

Never went away...


26 posted on 11/06/2017 11:14:01 AM PST by Moltke (Reasoning with a liberal is like watering a rock in the hope to grow a building)
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

Grand. I hadn’t heard any of that, but I guess I won’t let it keep me awake at night either.

Thank you (?) for the news.


27 posted on 11/06/2017 12:41:14 PM PST by GCC Catholic (Trump doesn't suffer fools, but fools will suffer Trump. Make America Great Again!)
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To: Tilted Irish Kilt

Three years ago, there was a mumps outbreak in the town I live in.

Of course, the Scott County Health department blamed it all on the unvaccinated kids, when ALL of the cases were among children and adults who HAD the vaccine.

Rather than say “Hmm... Maybe the vaccine isn’t protecting like we think it is”, they said “The vaccine only works if everyone is vaccinated, otherwise an unvaccinated carrier can make everyone sick! BAN THE NON VAXXERS!”


28 posted on 11/06/2017 2:58:21 PM PST by redgolum
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To: GCC Catholic

During the Brazil Olympics, they found small pox in the sewers.

Some doc friends I drink with say “It is still in the wild, but not much of it”.

An outbreak now would be a slate cleaner.


29 posted on 11/06/2017 3:00:20 PM PST by redgolum
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To: GCC Catholic

Not so sure on the smallpox. My family’s farm in Hart Co. , KY, tested for it. They couldn’t excavate the Indian camp that was there because it tested positive for smallpox.


30 posted on 11/06/2017 3:07:57 PM PST by KYGrandma (The sun shines bright on my old Kentucky home.....)
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To: pollywog

“Or the testes. “

If you had said “penis” I’d be licking every door knob I could find.


31 posted on 11/06/2017 3:12:00 PM PST by AppyPappy (Don't mistake your dorm political discussions with the desires of the nation)
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To: redgolum

The vaccine makes you less likely to get it.

Having the Chicken Pox as a child doesn’t mean you won’t get Shingles. It just makes it less likely.


32 posted on 11/06/2017 3:13:29 PM PST by AppyPappy (Don't mistake your dorm political discussions with the desires of the nation)
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To: redgolum

“An outbreak now would be a slate cleaner.”

Less so if you have that scar on your arm.


33 posted on 11/06/2017 3:14:56 PM PST by AppyPappy (Don't mistake your dorm political discussions with the desires of the nation)
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To: Jan_Sobieski

I’m fine with you not vaccinating your kids. I’m also fine with them never being allowed anywhere near mine.

L


34 posted on 11/06/2017 3:20:58 PM PST by Lurker (President Trump isn't our last chance. President Trump is THEIR last chance.)
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

“Then there is live virus found in an abandoned lab a few years back. No one knows how many other vials are floating around out there.”

The Soviets manufactured it by the metric ton during the Cold War.

L


35 posted on 11/06/2017 3:22:31 PM PST by Lurker (President Trump isn't our last chance. President Trump is THEIR last chance.)
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To: GCC Catholic
Plague is already happening in Southern Africa (because somehow citizens of Madagascar think it’s a good idea to dig up corpses and dance with them) — it’s Pneumonic Plague, which is a worse respiratory manifestation of the same bacteria that cause Bubonic Plague.

Plague is endemic in many areas of the world, including the US. However, we avoid activities that might expose us to it. Nevertheless, a few Americans every year contract it.

36 posted on 11/06/2017 4:12:06 PM PST by exDemMom (Current visual of the hole the US continues to dig itself into: http://www.usdebtclock.org/)
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To: HollyB
Not sure when I’ll be able to get my MMR again since it’s a live vaccine and my immune system is still quite poor.

I hope all of your friends and family are vaccinated. Your best protection right now is herd immunity.

37 posted on 11/06/2017 4:13:54 PM PST by exDemMom (Current visual of the hole the US continues to dig itself into: http://www.usdebtclock.org/)
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To: usmom
If the vaccine is effective,please explain how an unvaccinated person puts a vaccinated person at risk.

Although in theory, a vaccinated person should be safe even if exposed to someone who is unvaccinated, the fact is that not every vaccine is 100% effective in all recipients. If that vaccinated person is one of the unlucky people who have an immune system variant that prevents them from responding fully to a vaccination, then exposure to a non-vaccinated person might actually endanger their life. That is because the problem that prevents them from fully responding to the vaccine also makes them more susceptible to serious effects from the illness the vaccine is designed to prevent.

The primary populations that are endangered by unvaccinated people are infants who are too young to vaccinate and people over age 65 whose immune systems are declining. Whooping cough, for example, can be so mild in an unvaccinated person that the person does not even know they have the disease. But if that person comes near an unvaccinated infant, the infant can die from the disease.

38 posted on 11/06/2017 4:23:07 PM PST by exDemMom (Current visual of the hole the US continues to dig itself into: http://www.usdebtclock.org/)
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To: redgolum
Of course, the Scott County Health department blamed it all on the unvaccinated kids, when ALL of the cases were among children and adults who HAD the vaccine.

Rather than say “Hmm... Maybe the vaccine isn’t protecting like we think it is”, they said “The vaccine only works if everyone is vaccinated, otherwise an unvaccinated carrier can make everyone sick! BAN THE NON VAXXERS!”

It takes a bit of mathematics to understand what is going on here. Few, if any, vaccines are 100% effective in every recipient. Thus, if a vaccine is 97% effective, 3 people out of every 100 exposed will still get sick. On the other hand, the majority of non-vaccinated people who are exposed will get the disease. So you can have an outbreak situation where 8/10 unvaccinated get the disease and 30/1000 vaccinated people get the disease. In absolute numbers, more vaccinated people got sick, but the rate of illness was only 3% among the vaccinated as compared to 80% among the unvaccinated.

39 posted on 11/06/2017 4:35:20 PM PST by exDemMom (Current visual of the hole the US continues to dig itself into: http://www.usdebtclock.org/)
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To: redgolum
During the Brazil Olympics, they found small pox in the sewers.

Smallpox? Are you sure it wasn't polio?

Sewage is routinely tested for polio. Smallpox was spread by aerosols and contact with contaminated items, so it would have never been tested for in sewage. Smallpox was strictly a human disease, so when it was wiped out, it truly was wiped out. There are other pox diseases that people can catch, but they are not smallpox.

40 posted on 11/06/2017 4:38:46 PM PST by exDemMom (Current visual of the hole the US continues to dig itself into: http://www.usdebtclock.org/)
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