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New TSA Screening procedures?

Posted on 10/22/2017 8:45:37 PM PDT by Malsua

I flew out out of MCO this afternoon. I was in a security screening line that was not moving.

After about 10 minutes of literally not moving a foot, I heard "all the people in the left two lines are getting a preview of screening in 2018, all food, electronics, candies and anything larger than a cell phone must be removed from your carry on luggage".

I snuck over to a different line and got through, but this means the TSA theatre will now require that you remove everything from your carry on. My DSLR camera, lenses and flash are priority #1! Your bag of swedish fish make you a security risk!

This security theatre needs to end. sigh.


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To: Malsua

Stupid waste is time...


21 posted on 10/22/2017 9:38:49 PM PDT by Vendome (I've Gotta Be Me - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wH-pk2vZG2M)
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To: familyop

Israel nd El Al manage to screen passengers in a much more dangerous milieu with a fraction of the disruption and groping. El Al has not had any incident since they began screening. The principle of arbitrary power over people is much more important to our government than to that of Israel.


22 posted on 10/22/2017 9:47:41 PM PDT by arthurus
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To: WildHighlander57

The bus doesn’t go to Saigon. I do not like to fly but passage on a ship takes 2 to 4 weeks. It costs more unless I pack myself in a crate and ship me.


23 posted on 10/22/2017 9:52:03 PM PDT by ThanhPhero
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To: Simon Green
"TSA Pre"

has apparently signed me up. Things are still way worse since at least the late 80's, where a ticket and speed could get one on a plane <5 min. before departure, even on a flight from Canaduh to the US. Day trips for business were part of what Made America Great!

24 posted on 10/22/2017 10:00:31 PM PDT by Paladin2 (No spelchk nor wrong word auto substition on mobile dev. Please be intelligent and deal with it....)
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To: Simon Green
"TSA Pre"

has apparently signed me up.

Things are still way worse since at least the late 80's, where a ticket and speed could get one on a plane <5 min. before departure, even on a flight from Canaduh to the US.

Day trips for business were part of what Made America Great!

25 posted on 10/22/2017 10:01:42 PM PDT by Paladin2 (No spelchk nor wrong word auto substition on mobile dev. Please be intelligent and deal with it....)
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To: Paladin2

Ah, the old don’t use HTML trick....


26 posted on 10/22/2017 10:02:34 PM PDT by Paladin2 (No spelchk nor wrong word auto substition on mobile dev. Please be intelligent and deal with it....)
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To: Paladin2
its not just the security....the seats are made for extremely skinny people and the stewardesses treat you like their doing you favor for letting you on "their" airplane....

I tend to sit with my arms folded across my chest and barely move....its that uncomfortable...

27 posted on 10/22/2017 10:06:31 PM PDT by cherry
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To: Malsua

The only benefit (and it doesn’t outweigh the drawbacks) is that now the vast majority of people at the gates are flyers. In the old days everyone and their great aunt Sadie we’re at the gates to greet or send off travellers. And a bunch of pickpockets and panhandler types too.


28 posted on 10/22/2017 10:14:46 PM PDT by weston (SO HERE'S THE STORY: As far as I'm concerned, it's Christ or nothing!)
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To: cherry

Don’t get me started on the greatness of the “stews” of yore....


29 posted on 10/22/2017 10:22:00 PM PDT by Paladin2 (No spelchk nor wrong word auto substition on mobile dev. Please be intelligent and deal with it....)
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To: poinq
“Exactly, I racked up over a million miles. But now I fly maybe once a year. If I can drive I do it. If I can handle it over the phone I do that. The more I avoid the airport the better I feel. Its a huge waste of time. And I hate not knowing what crap they are going to have a problem with this time.........”

Ya, I was traveling a high level for 5 years starting in the late 80’s out of Houston. 50k miles per year. I could arrive at an airport on hour before departure, check an equipment chest into air freight, check a bag, clear security and make it to the plane with no running.

After 9/11, it got slooooooow and sometimes weird in the airport. Got so fed up with how long everything took both at the departure and arrival end that I started driving lots. My benchmark was 8 hours, If I could drive anywhere in 8 hours, I do that instead of fly. The travel time point to point was close enough to the same that I took to the road instead of dealing with the irritations of flying.

About 8 years ago, I had a chance for a head to head comparison of flying vs. driving. I drove Atlanta to Jacksonville and later in the day met up with my boss who flew ATL to JAX. We did our several days work in JAX then about 90 minutes before his flight I dropped him off at the airport while I hit the road back to ATL. We both lived about 45 miles north of ATL airport and he arrived home about 15 minutes ahead of me for my ca. 6 hour drive. If he had not been heading into the hometown with a personal car in parking and instead had messed with a rental car instead, I would have easily beat him on travel time.

30 posted on 10/22/2017 10:28:25 PM PDT by Hootowl99
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To: BipolarBob; WildHighlander57
Why fly?

I would rather not.

But I just went on a short vacation with my wife to the Smoky Mountains in North Carolina.

We rented a car and drove 12 hours from the south shore of Lake Erie in one day. Arriving in North Carolina after dark. Not much fun driving in the mountains after dark. Pretty darn scary for someone not familiar with the area or driving in mountains in the dark.

On the way back we took an extra day but we rarely have had that luxury.

I would rather not fly for two reasons. First; the same reason for this thread. I hate the TSA and their processes. Second; cramped seating and airline luggage scams.

Next May we will be taking an Alaskan cruise and will have to travel to Seattle to catch the boat. I simply can’t take the time to drive to the West Coast and it would cost a good deal of money in gas and motel rooms if I did.

I don’t look forward to sitting in an airline seat for six hours however so I check in to better than economy seating.

I would pay extra for more seating space if the airlines pricing policies made sense but having checked it out, it is ridiculous. To upgrade from Economy to Economy plus for an extra 3-5 inches of leg room cost an extra $200 dollars a seat. That extra money doesn’t even get you a break on your luggage. Business class would run me an extra $400 per seat.

Airlines are getting ridiculous in wringing every penny that they can out of their customers. After I retire I doubt that I will ever fly again but until then I will have to fly because I simply can not afford the time.

31 posted on 10/23/2017 12:57:58 AM PDT by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.L)
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To: Malsua

This is one of the reasons we are driving to FL for our vacation and not flying.

The TSA is going to kill the airline industry.

Back in the late 70’s when I first got saved, a co-worker of mine was making comments about the rising gas prices as the government’s way of trying to control us and force us to stay where we were and not travel. He said it was easier to control people when they weren’t free to move around as they wished.

It sounded kooky then but I have always remembered it and as I’ve watched things unfold over the last 40 years and how the government has WAY overreached it’s bounds, I have always considered that he was right.


32 posted on 10/23/2017 1:28:35 AM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith..)
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To: Malsua

MY one daughter will take the train when she has the opportunity.

It can be slow but it is MUCH more convenient and comfortable.


33 posted on 10/23/2017 1:34:42 AM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith..)
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To: cherry

I call it the sardine can.

I was forced to fly on business twice this year. They should pay me hazard pay.


34 posted on 10/23/2017 2:32:55 AM PDT by cgbg (Hidden behind the social justice warrior mask is corruption and sexual deviance.)
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To: Malsua

Went through TPA last Friday.Left on coat shoes.Didn’t take anything out of backback that had electronic items and quart sized liquid and gel zip lock.Personally didn”t go through Xray machine.


35 posted on 10/23/2017 3:00:36 AM PDT by Renegade
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To: Last Dakotan
"How many more of our freedoms do we have to give up to make America safe for Muslim immigration?"

All of them. Notice the Muslim TSA agents.

36 posted on 10/23/2017 3:19:32 AM PDT by Truth29
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To: Malsua

I don’t fly for any trip less than 2,500 miles one way. Makes all but part of N. Oregon and Washington State in range - and have no need to go there....


37 posted on 10/23/2017 3:33:59 AM PDT by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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To: Simon Green

Yup tsa pre and airline status makes flying ok


38 posted on 10/23/2017 4:01:43 AM PDT by rb22982
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To: Paladin2

In CLT I usually clear tsa pre in about a minute


39 posted on 10/23/2017 4:03:32 AM PDT by rb22982
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To: metmom

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.usatoday.com/story/99300132/

Looks like a lot of people are flying


40 posted on 10/23/2017 4:09:04 AM PDT by rb22982
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